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Tech Giants Take Their Talent Hunt to Cambridge, UK

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IF you have good insurance the co-pay is trivial. I broke a bone, total of $80 in copay. Someone with worse insurance is looking at a bill in the $1000's or even $10,000

It's the unexpected things that get you, though. I had to have a few emergency room visits for rabies shots, and ended up paying about $1500. I don't really know how to measure how "good" my insurance was, but I was working at a university in MA, so I expect the policy was at least decent. (The rabies vaccine is very expensive. The theoretical cost of the treatment, which the insurance company theoretically paid, was…

Funnily in the UK with the NHS it's again the unexpected things. In this case it's paying for parking, it adds up quick, especially if your'e visiting someone who's in hospital for a while.

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It's the unexpected things that get you, though. I had to have a few emergency room visits for rabies shots, and ended up paying about $1500. I don't really know how to measure how "good" my insurance was, but I was working at a university in MA, so I expect the policy was at least decent. (The rabies vaccine is very expensive. The theoretical cost of the treatment, which the insurance company theoretically paid, was…

Funnily in the UK with the NHS it's again the unexpected things. In this case it's paying for parking, it adds up quick, especially if your'e visiting someone who's in hospital for a while.

This incident happened a couple of weeks before I was due to move back to the UK. The NHS gave me my final rabies shot for free at my GP's surgery. I walked there, so I didn't pay parking, but I'm guessing it would have cost less than $1500.

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Mainland Europe has even lower salaries in a similar timezone.

Err no, certainly not. German salaries are at least on par with London, and ~twice as high than the rest of the UK.

Not from what I know.

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Why would you chase people from Universities who have high salary expectations when you have the internet? It is beyond me. Developers storm remote positions, yet the industry is super slow with adoption.

Because in-person collaboration is more effective.

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In complete terms it's more like 3x that $78k figure. The salary would be bad enough. The big US tech companies are nearly all publicly traded. So that $142,000 is really $250,000 or more in total compensation. The UK, and Europe more broadly, not only can't compete with the salaries, they can't compete with the ability to dish vast stock compensation thanks to the immense market caps that Google et al. have. If you'…

Not to mention that marginal tax in the UK is 40% income tax for 45k+ (45% over 150k) + 2% national insurance which is actually more marginal tax than SF, the highest taxed state in the US. Of course UK has the NHS fee healthcare, but if you're pulling $200k+ in SF you probably have medical benefits too.

Between £100k-£120k it hits an effective 60% as the personal allowance is withdrawn.

Re: Tech Giants Take Their Talent Hunt to Cambridge, UK

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Why would you chase people from Universities who have high salary expectations when you have the internet? It is beyond me. Developers storm remote positions, yet the industry is super slow with adoption.

Because in-person collaboration is more effective.

Haha, erm... source?

Re: Tech Giants Take Their Talent Hunt to Cambridge, UK

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Not to mention that marginal tax in the UK is 40% income tax for 45k+ (45% over 150k) + 2% national insurance which is actually more marginal tax than SF, the highest taxed state in the US. Of course UK has the NHS fee healthcare, but if you're pulling $200k+ in SF you probably have medical benefits too.

Between £100k-£120k it hits an effective 60% as the personal allowance is withdrawn.

Good point. Yeah, it seems impossible for tech in the UK to compete financially...

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Mainland Europe has even lower salaries in a similar timezone.

Err no, certainly not. German salaries are at least on par with London, and ~twice as high than the rest of the UK.

Well, consider V4, Romania, Croatia etc.

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Why are UK tech salaries so low compared to the US?

There are a number of reasons. Probably the biggest is that the UK doesn't have the number of large tech companies in one place needed to push up wages. ARM is in Cambridge, Rockstar is in Newcastle, Dyson near Bristol. The only exception is in Banking where the salaries are much higher than the UK average (but still lower, as tech is views as second to other roles, not as the primary focus). Other reasons are that t…

This is typical european business culture. Times are changing, though, more and more engineers start their own company.
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