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Polish charity gets huge phone bill thanks to stork

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Re: Polish charity gets huge phone bill thanks to stork

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>> ~$30/GB Does that include Canada? That is about HALF the advertised rates where I am. The real rates, after all the fees, are inevitably higher. Please send a few storks my way. https://www.telus.com/en/bc/mobility/plans/

Canada looks like 5GB/25USD.

byob in bc. 80$/month for 1gb/month, advertised price.

Re: Polish charity gets huge phone bill thanks to stork

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Ideally you'd get a dedicated M2M MVNO operator who'll sell you a whole stack of them. If you just want one, you'll have to do a lot of price comparison; Three UK have some nice deals where you can use inclusive minutes/data in some non-EU countries as well as the standard EU free roaming.

Thanks for the MVNO keyword, it led me to a few interesting offerings I didn't know existed in my local market. I did some price comparisons and found that unless I'm in different countries every month or I have a hard requirement on using the same number globally, it's much, much cheaper to just get a disposable local SIM card every time I travel.

You can use Asterisk & call using SIP to always have the same number.

Re: Polish charity gets huge phone bill thanks to stork

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Meanwhile, can Microsoft please add an option to Windows10 that says 'this computer is only connected to an internal on-board network and satellite connection, please never try to update'? That was an expensive mistake as well. I really wish people had started to migrate away from Windows earlier, but now all the essential stuff is written for it and well-tested, so any choice is hard.

The answer for this type of edge case configuration in Windows is usually "use Linux".

Some people are running Windows XP on that network, since that is what the instrument was certified with, and have less problems. Since my software is tested and does not run in Linux I'd rather say run Windows XP and keep very frequent backups and software ready in case somebody is careless and the network contracts malware. (None of the data is particularly sensitive, so.. )

Re: Polish charity gets huge phone bill thanks to stork

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Meanwhile, can Microsoft please add an option to Windows10 that says 'this computer is only connected to an internal on-board network and satellite connection, please never try to update'? That was an expensive mistake as well. I really wish people had started to migrate away from Windows earlier, but now all the essential stuff is written for it and well-tested, so any choice is hard.

I did it by not leaving enough free space on the machine for windows to download anything.

You can make another partition for your actual data if needed.

Re: Polish charity gets huge phone bill thanks to stork

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Only tangentially related to the article, but where/how do researchers get global coverage SIM cards that you can just put on a stork and expect to get data/calling wherever it flies? I've looked for this before but only found what seemed like tourist scams with very high prices per MB/minute.

Ideally you'd get a dedicated M2M MVNO operator who'll sell you a whole stack of them. If you just want one, you'll have to do a lot of price comparison; Three UK have some nice deals where you can use inclusive minutes/data in some non-EU countries as well as the standard EU free roaming.

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Re: Polish charity gets huge phone bill thanks to stork

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Does anybody know of one that doesn't charge a monthly fee? I have a product idea where I'd like to use mobile data as a backup in case of wifi network failure. So I'm willing to pay a higher per-MB fee if I can avoid a monthly per-SIM fee.

unfortunately, no carrier will do this. I suspect that this is because of administrative fees associated with simply allocating a phone number and the network overhead from having a device associate with cell towers when idle.

You don't need a phone number if you don't need to be called on one, and you don't even need to be actively tracked in the home location database if you don't need to be reached at low latency at all. Think low latency=incoming call, no loner low latency=hourly email check. The remaining overhead is just renewing the sim once it degrades and keeping database space to allow it to associate if it turns the gsm module on.

Re: Polish charity gets huge phone bill thanks to stork

#97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for the MVNO keyword, it led me to a few interesting offerings I didn't know existed in my local market. I did some price comparisons and found that unless I'm in different countries every month or I have a hard requirement on using the same number globally, it's much, much cheaper to just get a disposable local SIM card every time I travel.

You can use Asterisk & call using SIP to always have the same number.

You don't even need Asterisk. Twilio now supports SIP registration and is much easier to manage than maintaining your own Asterisk.

Re: Polish charity gets huge phone bill thanks to stork

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I wondering why SIM card wasn't Data-Only without voice?

Because most carriers are shit and don't even allow you to set policies on what the SIM can be used for.

I have a bunch of M2M SIMs here and they are capable of making calls using a number I didn't even know existed. The SIMs are marketed as M2M and the provider claims voice calls are not possible despite me having proof of the opposite by calling them from it.

Thankfully their billing systems don't even mention voice anywhere, but surely if I rack up a big enough bill they'll manually send me the invoice for that.

Re: Polish charity gets huge phone bill thanks to stork

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"EcoLogic told the Super Express newspaper that somebody found the tracker in Sudan, removed the sim card and put it in their own phone, where they then racked up 20 hours' worth of phone calls" So they actually got a huge bill because they didn't set a SIM lock (if that's possible), and didn't block voice calls and so on. Presumably, they had a good contract for sending tiny packets of data, but not for roaming call…

A simlock works the other way around. It is to ensure that a subsidized phone does not end up being used for another carrier. It does not lock a SIM from being used in another device.

You probably mean a pin code on the sim, but then you'd have to have a keyboard to enter the pin with and the device most likely did not come with such luxuries (nor a screen).

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