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The Hidden Cost of Touchscreens

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Re: The Hidden Cost of Touchscreens

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I don't think that's a lack of attention to detail from Mini. Just a decision made with the knowledge that people don't buy premium cars based on rational decisions. If they did, I'm not sure Mini (or BMW for that matter) would exist... I don't think this is the case for airplanes.

My purchase of a Mini was mostly motivated by 1. wanting a physically small car (I'm bad at parking) 2. ...that wasn't anemic at highway speeds 3. ...and could (uncomfortably) fit a couple of friends if necessary, or some flat-pack furniture boxes 4. ...all without being either bland or ugly as sin.

And (4) is where BMW make their money! Or you'd have bought a Suzuki Swift :)

Re: The Hidden Cost of Touchscreens

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I think the mixed mode works really well. Touchscreens are pretty natural and intuitive, especially for things like ATMs, but you can't have braille on ATM touch screens so you need the buttons no matter what. At least in the US they usually have headphone jacks to replace the information presented on the screen though, and since you have a screen you might as well make it a touch screen.

> Touchscreens are pretty natural and intuitive Try to watch someone in their 60s operate them and you will learn that the are anything but. My dad find them endlessly frustrating, as his first instinct when talking about something in an image or something is to put his finger on it. But that invariably triggers something on such a screen. He also struggles with things like Google Maps on a PC with a scroll mouse, as…

Or just jumping from an older interface to a modern one. I'm a 30-year-old software developer and just had this experience with Google's "Material Design" on my new Android phone, took quite a while to figure out what did what.

It's been a week and I'm still discovering things by accident or having to look up online how to do things because it's all hidden away with no visual indicators. I've pretty much decided to shun the whole thing and make things look like what they are whenever I make UIs.

Re: The Hidden Cost of Touchscreens

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I still miss a physical button on my phone to take a picture. Haven’t had it since my Nokia Windows Phone.

iPhones also let you use the volume buttons to take a picture

Oh cool, so does my new Android. I would never have guessed that, and there's no documentation anywhere.

So from "screen off" to "picture taken" it's "tap power twice, tap volume". So much better than I've had to get used to with my prior phone.

Re: The Hidden Cost of Touchscreens

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I drive a 2011 MINI Cooper S and have owned a 2007 and a 2003. Every generation has its share of wtf when it comes to dashboard switches. Take my biggest peeve, the blower switch on the 2011: If you press "increase" while at max blower, it stays at max blower. If you press "decrease" while at min blower, it turns off. If you press "decrease" while at off, it goes to min blower. So you can jam the blower to max withou…

> So you can jam the blower to max without looking, but if you overshoot on the way back down, it goes off and on again! Seems like the "turn to lowest if decrease is pressed while off" was explicitly designed to overcome this issue.

Yes! I should have included that I am sure it is purposeful, but I am not sure that they considered the practical implications.

Re: The Hidden Cost of Touchscreens

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think that's a lack of attention to detail from Mini. Just a decision made with the knowledge that people don't buy premium cars based on rational decisions. If they did, I'm not sure Mini (or BMW for that matter) would exist... I don't think this is the case for airplanes.

Are there any somewhat affordable cars that skimp on the "bling" to archive this sort of efficiency?

Volvo is better about physical switches than comparable cars.
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