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Re: A collection of free datasets from Microsoft Research

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I ask this not with snark but with fond(ish) memories, but does Microsoft providing open data like this make anyone else think of that Northwinds sample database that used to come with SQL Server? Not sure if it still does or not, as I'm in a different DB engine entirely these days, but I kind of grinned with a wee bit of nostalgia checking out this site thinking of that. I cut my teeth on that data set. Edit: Son of…

SQL Server ships something called Adventure Works since over a decade - same idea as Northwind but larger to also demo and play around with Analytivs and BI.

Re: A collection of free datasets from Microsoft Research

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They don't make it easy to find out what the Microsoft Research License Agreement is, when they put it behind a login wall on a site that doesn't work with ad-block. But this appears to be a copy of it: http://www.cs.toronto.edu/~aditya/langid/msrla.txt

These license terms are a trap. Nobody should ever accept them.

You can't use the data for commercial purposes, which is harsh enough on its own -- it means the data should only be interesting to people who plan to be academics permanently, or who don't plan to succeed at anything they do with it.

You can't even open-source anything you make out of it, because open source software does not restrict the purpose for which it's used. You can't combine it with data under any Creative Commons license except CC-By or CC-0, because its restrictions are definitely not Creative Commons compatible.

The truly insulting part is that you have to give an unrestricted license back to Microsoft for everything you make out of this data. You can't benefit from what you make out of the data, but Microsoft can, with no limitations.

Whatever you make from this data, you can't benefit from it. Most other people can't benefit from it. Microsoft can benefit from it, and if they want to, they can just take it without crediting you.

This is like an artist being asked to do something "for the exposure", by someone who will just take it and give you no exposure.

Re: A collection of free datasets from Microsoft Research

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post #12
post #8

I ask this not with snark but with fond(ish) memories, but does Microsoft providing open data like this make anyone else think of that Northwinds sample database that used to come with SQL Server? Not sure if it still does or not, as I'm in a different DB engine entirely these days, but I kind of grinned with a wee bit of nostalgia checking out this site thinking of that. I cut my teeth on that data set. Edit: Son of…

SQL Server ships something called Adventure Works since over a decade - same idea as Northwind but larger to also demo and play around with Analytivs and BI.

Adventure Works, pffft... I’ll take Scott any day of the week.

Re: A collection of free datasets from Microsoft Research

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post #14

They don't make it easy to find out what the Microsoft Research License Agreement is, when they put it behind a login wall on a site that doesn't work with ad-block. But this appears to be a copy of it: http://www.cs.toronto.edu/~aditya/langid/msrla.txt These license terms are a trap. Nobody should ever accept them. You can't use the data for commercial purposes, which is harsh enough on its own -- it means the data…

"We're all in on open source." [1] Thanks for taking the effort to check. :) I believe this kind of attitude from MS is pretty problematic for Github.

[1] https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/04/microsoft-ceo-satya-nadella-...

Re: A collection of free datasets from Microsoft Research

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post #14

They don't make it easy to find out what the Microsoft Research License Agreement is, when they put it behind a login wall on a site that doesn't work with ad-block. But this appears to be a copy of it: http://www.cs.toronto.edu/~aditya/langid/msrla.txt These license terms are a trap. Nobody should ever accept them. You can't use the data for commercial purposes, which is harsh enough on its own -- it means the data…

I thought you are overreacting until I reached this part : " 3. That Microsoft is granted back, without any restrictions or limitations, a non-exclusive, perpetual, irrevocable, royalty-free, assignable and sub-licensable license, to reproduce, publicly perform or display, install, use, modify, post, distribute, make and have made, sell and transfer your modifications to and/or derivative works of the Data, including but not limited to the results and analysis of any tests that are run by or conducted by you with or for the Data, for any purpose."

"Not limited" - so basically any software processing it.

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