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Re: Please stop asking me to use the app

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Post by TACIXAT »

goostavos wrote: post #114
kirubakaran wrote: post #10

I'm thankful for their new design, actually. After many years of trying, I have now managed to successfully kick my Reddit habit completely and have gained precious hours in my day.

I've been trying to pin down _why_ I've had the same reaction as you, but I really can't put my finger on it. Something about the new site just somehow puts me off. While I could mindlessly browse the old site endlessly, something about the new actively makes me want to close the tab. Either way, a good thing.

1. I can't log in on the new site. If I log out on the new one I get a weird error logging in.

2. Everything is clickable. On a crappy touch pad I misclick so much stuff.

3. Resource usage. I bought a lighter laptop. It sacred me actually because embedded YouTube was lagging on the new site. This was even worse because everything is ckickable problem.

4. It took a lot of clicks to see a content. There might be an expand / collapse but I had a hard time finding it consistently.

Re: Please stop asking me to use the app

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Post by prepend »

dingo_bat wrote: post #38
toomuchtodo wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bah, just be an API endpoint and let everyone use their own client. The only value in Reddit is the centralization and organization of users and subreddits.

Where's the money in that?

I’d pay $1/year for that.

Re: Please stop asking me to use the app

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Post by JBReefer »

im3w1l wrote: post #104
taneq wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Create -> Monetize -> Expand -> Exploit -> Destroy It's a common commercial lifecycle for all sorts of things. You make a new thing. You find a way to make money from the thing. You expand your market for the thing by filling a need and treating your customers well. At some point you want to cash out, and start burning your userbase to make extra money. Eventually this destroys the whole thing.

That's part of it. Another cause is that companies grow and get more employees and those employees need to justify their existence by changing things up. You don't get promoted for not fixing what aint broken.

This this this. That's why there are a million fly-by-night Craigslist competitors, and then there's Craigslist.

It works the same way it did in 1999, so my grandma can still sell stuff on it. That's it. Done. It's probably made way more money by not changing anything than by increasing CPMs 5% by playing a fullscreen ad every 6 seconds.

Re: Please stop asking me to use the app

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Post by rnet85 »

paidleaf wrote: post #207

They are trying to IPO for once last chance at a cashout for their most recent investor/owner ( advanced publications ). http://www.businessinsider.com/reddit-is-reportedly-consider... They aren't interested in user experience. They are interested in drumming up mobile #s in the short term to get the best valuation possible. Reddit, like most things on the internet, have turned away from their idealistic beginnings f…

I interviewed there. It is not as dark as you put it. They admit they have certain problems with how they display ads, and how they draw in more people. They're acutely aware that they've yet to figure out a mature way to monetize the site without irritating the users. These are trials. Different teams come up different ideas and they want to try them out and see if it works out. Their CEO is very aware of criticisms like these.

Re: Please stop asking me to use the app

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Post by xtracto »

slg wrote: post #57
ajross wrote: post #39

At this point I'm genuinely wondering if they're about to Digg themselves into a amusingly-recursive grave. All it would take is one great, open forum site to absorb the refugees from a terrible management mistep, and they're toast. Just like Digg.

The funny thing is that Reddit completely inadvertently killed one of the possible heirs in Voat. That site had potential to steal the traditional Reddit audience due to Reddit's mismanagement. However Reddit's crackdown on hate on the site caused a big exodus of problem users to Voat. The end result is that Voat is now a vile alt-right wasteland that presents no threat of stealing Reddit's mainstream audience.

There is actually another alternative which is quote good called https://tildes.net/

Right now it is very closely editorialized, but conversation level is at a good point.

Re: Please stop asking me to use the app

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Post by tomjen3 »

yetanother1980 wrote: post #158
tomjen3 wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At this point I don't know why anybody would have the Facebook app installed. You can't even read messages on it. But yeah notifications in general needs a strong enforcement from Google if we don't have to turn them off completely.

Try mbasic.facebook.com

Indeed that is my goto, but that is not the app.

Re: Please stop asking me to use the app

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Post by slantaclaus »

paidleaf wrote: post #206
kirubakaran wrote: post #10

I'm thankful for their new design, actually. After many years of trying, I have now managed to successfully kick my Reddit habit completely and have gained precious hours in my day.

> I'm thankful for their new design, actually. After having to click "visit old reddit" a few times, I just got sick of it. > After many years of trying, I have now managed to successfully kick my Reddit habit completely and have gained precious hours in my day. It stopped being fun. Reddit has turned into the infowars of the left. It's just spiteful and angry leftist politics 24/7. I suppose it was inevitable when r…

It’s infowars on both sides. /r/anarchycringe vs /r/latestagecapitalism

Re: Please stop asking me to use the app

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Post by greenleafjacob »

fphhotchips wrote: post #160
dionidium wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>All it would take is one great, open forum site to absorb the refugees from a terrible management mistep, and they're toast I doubt it. Unlike Digg, Reddit has community lock-in. If your content is generic memes and videos and general-interest news articles, then you can switch without caring too much if everybody else follows right away. But if you’re in a small city sub or the sub of some niche hobby or interest,…

Lots of those subs are already migrating large chunks of community to Discord.

Discord is also a money burning VC funded company...

Re: Please stop asking me to use the app

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Post by twhb »

jopsen wrote: post #173
twhb wrote: post #162

I see threads like this all the time, and they don't make sense. Reddit is an ad company. It's not an effort to build you a nice website, it's a machine for taking your time and attention from you then selling it. Asking Reddit to "please stop" grabbing at better attention hooks is like asking McDonald's to "please stop" raising prices. The right way to say this is timeless: refuse to make the trade. If Reddit goes t…

Things don't always change for the better because you complain. But things rarely change for the better when you don't complain. Reddit is trying to build a community too, because otherwise they wouldn't have visitors. It's naive to think that speaking up never makes a difference.

History doesn’t support your comment. People have complained endlessly about ISPs, various video game mechanics, Google and Facebook tracking; no change, because the people complaining don’t leave. People generally don’t complain about ugly interfaces, stores far away, confusing calls to action; they constantly change and improve, because the people who hit these problems often leave.

When speaking up has made a difference, virtually every time, it was coupled with action, or it was speaking up to people who had no reason not to agree.

Reddit’s community is a means to an end, that’s my point. Asking for something that strengthens the community without harming ad views may be reasonable, but asking them to strengthen the community at the direct expense of the reason they want a community is nonsense.

Re: Please stop asking me to use the app

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Post by craftyguy »

rnet85 wrote: post #234
paidleaf wrote: post #207

They are trying to IPO for once last chance at a cashout for their most recent investor/owner ( advanced publications ). http://www.businessinsider.com/reddit-is-reportedly-consider... They aren't interested in user experience. They are interested in drumming up mobile #s in the short term to get the best valuation possible. Reddit, like most things on the internet, have turned away from their idealistic beginnings f…

I interviewed there. It is not as dark as you put it. They admit they have certain problems with how they display ads, and how they draw in more people. They're acutely aware that they've yet to figure out a mature way to monetize the site without irritating the users. These are trials. Different teams come up different ideas and they want to try them out and see if it works out. Their CEO is very aware of criticisms…

> I interviewed there.

It's not really unheard of for an employer to paint a rosy picture for prospective employees...

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