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Lyft and Uber Won’t Be Happy Until They’re Your One-Stop Transit Guide

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Re: Lyft and Uber Won’t Be Happy Until They’re Your One-Stop Transit Guide

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> Won't Be Happy Why so negative. I like how Europeans/Chinese/Everyone stands behind their companies and expect them to succeed globally. USA on other hand is bent on destroying/defaming their own.

There are plenty of companies worth standing behind in the US.

The ones that are known to engage in behavior detrimental to their workforce don't fit in that class.

Re: Lyft and Uber Won’t Be Happy Until They’re Your One-Stop Transit Guide

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post #9

They're still very expensive compared to subways and buses. In New York, subways are pretty dirty, but a good bus is usually better and faster than an Uber.

The article is talking about bikes though. Bike shares are definitely cheaper than subways and buses.

Case-in-point: in SF, Ford GoBike (by Motivate, soon to be part of Lyft) costs $15/month. A monthly bus (MUNI) pass runs at $73, clearly more expensive even if you use pre-tax money to pay it.

Re: Lyft and Uber Won’t Be Happy Until They’re Your One-Stop Transit Guide

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post #6

> Won't Be Happy Why so negative. I like how Europeans/Chinese/Everyone stands behind their companies and expect them to succeed globally. USA on other hand is bent on destroying/defaming their own.

Because these companies show a disdain for the law. And in this case, "succeed" is "fully control the market and reduce your choices". Maybe European/Chinese/Everyone has plenty of companies that flout the law and others are happy with it, but I would not be.

Re: Lyft and Uber Won’t Be Happy Until They’re Your One-Stop Transit Guide

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post #3

i sure wouldn't mind some vc-subsidized underground trains. maybe if they became competitive rapid transit operators as well, the world could become a better place

For a vision of how that plays out, see: United Kingdom. It doesn’t end well, not well at all.

Re: Lyft and Uber Won’t Be Happy Until They’re Your One-Stop Transit Guide

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post #3

i sure wouldn't mind some vc-subsidized underground trains. maybe if they became competitive rapid transit operators as well, the world could become a better place

For a vision of how that plays out, see: United Kingdom. It doesn’t end well, not well at all.

Tldr for the lazy?

Re: Lyft and Uber Won’t Be Happy Until They’re Your One-Stop Transit Guide

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post #3

i sure wouldn't mind some vc-subsidized underground trains. maybe if they became competitive rapid transit operators as well, the world could become a better place

It would be nice except for the areas they suddenly choose not to serve.

Re: Lyft and Uber Won’t Be Happy Until They’re Your One-Stop Transit Guide

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

For a vision of how that plays out, see: United Kingdom. It doesn’t end well, not well at all.

Tldr for the lazy?

From Wikipedia

The process was very controversial at the time, and still is, and its success is hotly debated – with the claimed benefits including a reduced cost to the taxpayer, lower fares, improved customer service, and more investment. Despite opposition from the Labour Party, who gained power in 1997 under Tony Blair, the process has never been reversed wholesale by any later government, and the system remains largely unaltered. A significant change came in 2001 with the collapse of Railtrack, which saw its assets passed to the state-owned Network Rail (NR), with track maintenance also brought in-house under NR in 2004. The regulatory structures have also subsequently changed.

The Guardian

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jan/07/britains-rai...

Citylab

https://www.citylab.com/transportation/2012/09/why-britains-...

Science Direct

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S015599821...

Re: Lyft and Uber Won’t Be Happy Until They’re Your One-Stop Transit Guide

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post #9

They're still very expensive compared to subways and buses. In New York, subways are pretty dirty, but a good bus is usually better and faster than an Uber.

The article is talking about bikes though. Bike shares are definitely cheaper than subways and buses. Case-in-point: in SF, Ford GoBike (by Motivate, soon to be part of Lyft) costs $15/month. A monthly bus (MUNI) pass runs at $73, clearly more expensive even if you use pre-tax money to pay it.

In the DC area, an annual Capital Bikeshare membership is only $85. I recently started mixing some biking into my commute and thought about purchasing a bike, but the $400-500 I was looking at for something durable and well reviewed was hard to justify for my fairly chill, all-trails, 1-4 times a week biking home from the office. Particularly when I compared it to the dramatically lower personal overhead associated with the bikeshare. Of course, my living and working situations are fortuitously situated with respect to existing docks, but I really enjoy not worrying at all about "my" bike.
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