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Lyft Follows Uber Into Bike-Sharing Lane, Buying Owner of CitiBike

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Re: Lyft Follows Uber Into Bike-Sharing Lane, Buying Owner of CitiBike

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How does the popularity of bikes compare to electric scooters? Anecdotally, I see a lot more Bird and Lime S scooters flying around than I do bicycles these days - and we do have docked bicycle and Lime bikes and Ofo options available in my city. Having tried many of these services, I find the electric scooters to be the most enjoyable, although the electric bikes are quite fun too and can be a better experience if y…

Here in NYC I haven't really seen any scooters ever, whereas Citibike is everywhere.

They haven't launched here. We barely even have dockless bikeshares (and even then they're not allowed in the exclusive Citibike coverage area). We're a rough regulatory environment.

Re: Lyft Follows Uber Into Bike-Sharing Lane, Buying Owner of CitiBike

#103
post #79

This kind of news reminds how much I need to stop fullstack development , and instead should create a random clone of a trending startups and sell it as quickly as possible.

Wouldn't you still have to do "fullstack development" to create the clone?

Re: Lyft Follows Uber Into Bike-Sharing Lane, Buying Owner of CitiBike

#104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No room for buses, trains, or regular bicycles? The nice thing about a regular bicycle is the unlimited range. Whereas the nice thing about an electric bike is the speed. My personal hierarchy is more like this: 0-1 miles: walk 1-10 miles: e-bike or bus or lyft 10-100 miles: regular bike or train > 100 miles: car

They are great too, but if you live in a high bike crime area, you don't want to deal with super locking your bike at your destination. Dealing with stolen tires , seats and handlebars is aggravating as hell after the 3rd time. Also bring your bike on the train, and then going the last 2 miles to your actual destination is pretty annoying too. It's much nicer to just grab a bike at the station and then leave it at wo…

That's my situation -- bike to the train on my own bike, leave it in a locker so I don't have to deal carrying it around, then grab a shared bike at the end of my trip and leave it near the office. If I had bikeshare near my home, I'd skip using my own bike for commuting entirely. Not having to worry about whether or not my bike will have all of its pieces is wonderful.

Re: Lyft Follows Uber Into Bike-Sharing Lane, Buying Owner of CitiBike

#105
post #5

How does the popularity of bikes compare to electric scooters? Anecdotally, I see a lot more Bird and Lime S scooters flying around than I do bicycles these days - and we do have docked bicycle and Lime bikes and Ofo options available in my city. Having tried many of these services, I find the electric scooters to be the most enjoyable, although the electric bikes are quite fun too and can be a better experience if y…

Here in NYC I haven't really seen any scooters ever, whereas Citibike is everywhere.

I also haven't seen any here yet. I ride Citibike daily (Brooklyn and Manhattan) and would be wary of using the scooters because the roads are so badly maintained. It's already pretty bad even on a bike.

Re: Lyft Follows Uber Into Bike-Sharing Lane, Buying Owner of CitiBike

#106
post #5

How does the popularity of bikes compare to electric scooters? Anecdotally, I see a lot more Bird and Lime S scooters flying around than I do bicycles these days - and we do have docked bicycle and Lime bikes and Ofo options available in my city. Having tried many of these services, I find the electric scooters to be the most enjoyable, although the electric bikes are quite fun too and can be a better experience if y…

The stat I heard was that a bike is likely to be used 1-2 times per day by a user, whereas the same user will use a scooter 3-4 times per day.

So in this scenario you might see someone ride the bike from their apartment downtown, but during the day use a scoot to get between meetings, to a lunch venue, to the bar after work again and then maybe ride a bicycle home at the end of the day if not catch a car.

Re: Lyft Follows Uber Into Bike-Sharing Lane, Buying Owner of CitiBike

#107
post #37

Can someone explain the economics of services like this? I just get the feeling that these bike-sharing services are running on a good sales pitch and a market which seems obvious but isn't really there. There are probably four or five competing services in my city and yet I have never actually seen a single person actually riding them. There are certainly people riding bikes but it's always their own bike. Complicat…

For a guy who doesn't understand the pricing[1], doesn't understand the mechanics[2], and doesn't understand the people you generalize about[3], you're very opinionated on all these topics.

[1] in most places, a yearly subscription brings the price down to $10-$20 a month.

[2] bike availability is sometimes constrained, sometimes ample. But it has nothing to do with the erroneous claim that no one else uses it.

[3] What 'bikers' want is a large and diverse array of different things. Some hate bikeshares. Some love it.

Re: Lyft Follows Uber Into Bike-Sharing Lane, Buying Owner of CitiBike

#108
post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No room for buses, trains, or regular bicycles? The nice thing about a regular bicycle is the unlimited range. Whereas the nice thing about an electric bike is the speed. My personal hierarchy is more like this: 0-1 miles: walk 1-10 miles: e-bike or bus or lyft 10-100 miles: regular bike or train > 100 miles: car

I love taking trains. BART is my jam. Buses being at the whim of traffic while costing only 15-20% less than Uber Express for 5-10miles while offering none of the live-information means its a no-go for me. I've spent far too long waiting in various weather conditions, hoping the bus arrives on time. So even up to a 30-40% premium to just hop into a car makes sense to me.

> Buses being at the whim of traffic while costing only 15-20% less than Uber Express for 5-10miles while offering none of the live-information means its a no-go for me.

In Seattle, buses have had GPS trackers for years. A lot of stops use that data for "time of arrival" displays. There is also a publicly available feed of that data, lots of apps out there that remind people when to leave their office to go out and catch their bus.

More bus only lanes would be nice!

Re: Lyft Follows Uber Into Bike-Sharing Lane, Buying Owner of CitiBike

#109
post #37

Can someone explain the economics of services like this? I just get the feeling that these bike-sharing services are running on a good sales pitch and a market which seems obvious but isn't really there. There are probably four or five competing services in my city and yet I have never actually seen a single person actually riding them. There are certainly people riding bikes but it's always their own bike. Complicat…

> - Anyone who's actually into riding bikes will just buy one.

My bikes keep getting stolen. From a locked garage.

Bike rental services are a good solution to that problem! (Well at least from my point of view, heh)

Re: Lyft Follows Uber Into Bike-Sharing Lane, Buying Owner of CitiBike

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here in NYC I haven't really seen any scooters ever, whereas Citibike is everywhere.

They haven't launched here. We barely even have dockless bikeshares (and even then they're not allowed in the exclusive Citibike coverage area). We're a rough regulatory environment.

It sucks to be in the largest city and yet could not try the scooters or electric bikes. I think it makes more sense for NYC to have them and would be a great way to avoid subway for like 2 miles.
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