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Coinbase Custody Is Officially Open for Business

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Re: Coinbase Custody Is Officially Open for Business

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s not true. For example, owning bitcoin gives you property rights.

Are you referring to the right to obtain profit from forks?

No, i’m talking about the fact that bitcoin is literally property according to the government.

Also profit != property.

Re: Coinbase Custody Is Officially Open for Business

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Coinbase stole $30,000 from me and won't return it. They listed a new coin (bitcoin cash) without prior announcement. I bought $30,000 worth at $5000 each. It went from $500 to $9000 in a matter of minutes. However, while allowing people to buy the coin at very high prices, they also froze everyone's ability to sell the coin. They only allowed people to sell it on their market again, about 24 hours later, after the c…

You invested money in a completely unregulated asset class. Buyer beware

Coinbase did not steal anything from you.

Sometimes you get lucky with a risky investment sometimes you lose it all. That’s why they are called risky investments

Re: Coinbase Custody Is Officially Open for Business

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post #16

Coinbase stole $30,000 from me and won't return it. They listed a new coin (bitcoin cash) without prior announcement. I bought $30,000 worth at $5000 each. It went from $500 to $9000 in a matter of minutes. However, while allowing people to buy the coin at very high prices, they also froze everyone's ability to sell the coin. They only allowed people to sell it on their market again, about 24 hours later, after the c…

Stole has a particular legal definition.

Assets being stopped for trading occurs in all markets, including in the highly regarded US stock market.

You wanted to participate in a pump and dump, and now you are angry that you couldn't do the dump. You thought it was easy money, well, now you know one aspect that you didn't consider (that selling might be suspended)

Re: Coinbase Custody Is Officially Open for Business

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It's a shame that Coinbase, of all people, demands payment for Coinbase Custody in a fiat currency of US Dollars.

> payment for Coinbase Custody in a fiat currency of US Dollars

They're selling shovels for cash. The gold is for the miners.

Re: Coinbase Custody Is Officially Open for Business

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The concept of financial custody goes back hundreds of years (although I realize most HN readers have probably never heard of it); it doesn't make sense to abandon that terminology over a short-lived political crisis.

I'm sure there's many things they could call it though, that would have more positive overtones. From a branding/marketing perspective. Edit: For example, why not call it Coinbase Custodian? Totally different connotation, and better name IMHO.

> why not call it Coinbase Custodian?

"Coinbase Custody" tells me exactly what they're doing. "Coinbase Custodian" makes me think they're launching a janitorial service.

Re: Coinbase Custody Is Officially Open for Business

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post #16

Coinbase stole $30,000 from me and won't return it. They listed a new coin (bitcoin cash) without prior announcement. I bought $30,000 worth at $5000 each. It went from $500 to $9000 in a matter of minutes. However, while allowing people to buy the coin at very high prices, they also froze everyone's ability to sell the coin. They only allowed people to sell it on their market again, about 24 hours later, after the c…

Stole has a particular legal definition. Assets being stopped for trading occurs in all markets, including in the highly regarded US stock market. You wanted to participate in a pump and dump, and now you are angry that you couldn't do the dump. You thought it was easy money, well, now you know one aspect that you didn't consider (that selling might be suspended)

Either the market is open or closed, and when that changes is a very well-known schedule (for the most part). Even the US stock market would run into some very unhappy people if they partially closed a market (e.g. only allowed buying, not selling) or they closed a particular stock at their whim.

I'm not saying this wasn't risky or dumb, I'm just saying the US stock market is a poor counter-example because both of the things that happened in this case are exceedingly unlikely to happen on the US stock market.

Re: Coinbase Custody Is Officially Open for Business

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stole has a particular legal definition. Assets being stopped for trading occurs in all markets, including in the highly regarded US stock market. You wanted to participate in a pump and dump, and now you are angry that you couldn't do the dump. You thought it was easy money, well, now you know one aspect that you didn't consider (that selling might be suspended)

Either the market is open or closed, and when that changes is a very well-known schedule (for the most part). Even the US stock market would run into some very unhappy people if they partially closed a market (e.g. only allowed buying, not selling) or they closed a particular stock at their whim. I'm not saying this wasn't risky or dumb, I'm just saying the US stock market is a poor counter-example because both of th…

Individual stocks can be frozen, and things like the flash crash can trigger circuit breakers with little to no warning.

Plus, a company can (hell, typically does) release news after-hours and leave you in the lurch, or go suddenly bankrupt. Ask me how my couple dozen Lehman Brothers shares are doing...

Re: Coinbase Custody Is Officially Open for Business

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stole has a particular legal definition. Assets being stopped for trading occurs in all markets, including in the highly regarded US stock market. You wanted to participate in a pump and dump, and now you are angry that you couldn't do the dump. You thought it was easy money, well, now you know one aspect that you didn't consider (that selling might be suspended)

Either the market is open or closed, and when that changes is a very well-known schedule (for the most part). Even the US stock market would run into some very unhappy people if they partially closed a market (e.g. only allowed buying, not selling) or they closed a particular stock at their whim. I'm not saying this wasn't risky or dumb, I'm just saying the US stock market is a poor counter-example because both of th…

Yeah but just because the stock market may have been a poor example, it does not invalidate the rest of his argument. The OP tried to pump and dump, now he's complaining because he got burned.

No such thing as easy money.

Re: Coinbase Custody Is Officially Open for Business

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Coinbase stole $30,000 from me and won't return it. They listed a new coin (bitcoin cash) without prior announcement. I bought $30,000 worth at $5000 each. It went from $500 to $9000 in a matter of minutes. However, while allowing people to buy the coin at very high prices, they also froze everyone's ability to sell the coin. They only allowed people to sell it on their market again, about 24 hours later, after the c…

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