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Blocked by JSConf.eu Twitter account
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#102Sounds like a conference run by incompetent people, which is usually the vibe I get from glorified "javascript users". Definitely not a conference I'd ever attend. A conference for technology is usually supposed to be a social gathering for people with a shared interest, not a formal conference like a business gathering. The only thing I can't think of is that you submitted a lot of proposals and they perhaps thought…
They also tend to have the "you offended a random folk for the most ridiculous reason, and because we are so fragile, we will ostracize you for the rest of your life" mentality. Don't get me wrong: harassment or aggressive behavior are not right and should not be tolerated. But on the other hand, over-cautious attitude that make any controversial comment a potential aggression is a really worrying trend today. The ri…
Indeed, I was most disappointed when I looked at the Django Con Europe twitter and the first thing I saw was codes of conduct and comments about genders and bathrooms. I was wanting to read about Django.
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#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
He didn't tweet that at the organizers. He quoted an article and linked to the article.
Here's what I see if I click on the stupid fucking white man tweet. It shows the message is a reply to 3 accounts, including the conference. https://imgur.com/a/1RlK4MN
Oh wow, I missed the replies because I couldn't understand them. Thanks!
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#104What kind of people tell paying customers they are not worth the time required to answer a question?
I deliberately chose not to work in the "enterprise" market with 6-digit contracts anymore and instead sell a consumer product to many more people so that I could fire any customer that annoyed me without thinking twice about it. They get their money back and can find someone else to annoy. I really don't see what's so outrageous about the practice. There is no moral law that being paid by someone somehow creates a h…
the key factor is whether they ever _told_ him "hey, you're spamming the conference at this point, please tone it down." - otherwise it's just passive-aggressive. Would you simply close a client's account and refund them without ever telling them that you were considering such actions? Because that would be extremely unprofessional.
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#105At some point you offended the wrong person, they added you to one of those shared blocklists, and that's all, you're banned forever. Who's to blame? I'd say you, for caring. This is the way politics works now, and some software projects have, for some reason, joined the politics battle. By caring you're giving them weight. Just flip them off, tell them to go fuck themselves, and keep thinking the way you do. It's no…
On the one hand, it is a privately run conference and they can generally do what they want. On the other hand, I am strongly opposed to private blacklists, on the following grounds: First, I understand there is an effort to create blacklists independently, then contact conferences who have a speaker who is on them, and then publicly shame the conference if they don't ban the speaker in question. This removes agency f…
>I am strongly opposed to private blacklists
HN uses similar approaches. Just saying. You can have tons of points, but if some of your recent posts were unpopular for whatever reason, your account will be limited to the point that you can't really take part in conversations.
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#106At some point you offended the wrong person, they added you to one of those shared blocklists, and that's all, you're banned forever. Who's to blame? I'd say you, for caring. This is the way politics works now, and some software projects have, for some reason, joined the politics battle. By caring you're giving them weight. Just flip them off, tell them to go fuck themselves, and keep thinking the way you do. It's no…
I think most conferences will do well without attendees who consider them 'manchilds and circus freaks'.
Calling a organizer that would get you banned too and I think that's perfectly fine. There is no reason to get personal.
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#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
On the one hand, it is a privately run conference and they can generally do what they want. On the other hand, I am strongly opposed to private blacklists, on the following grounds: First, I understand there is an effort to create blacklists independently, then contact conferences who have a speaker who is on them, and then publicly shame the conference if they don't ban the speaker in question. This removes agency f…
>I am strongly opposed to private blacklists HN uses similar approaches. Just saying. You can have tons of points, but if some of your recent posts were unpopular for whatever reason, your account will be limited to the point that you can't really take part in conversations.
100% agreed. This is why allowing websites like HN, Facebook, and Twitter to become replacements for the public town hall is a very, very bad idea.
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#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
1) To ensure that known trolls/predators do not show up. 2) Probably because consent can be enforced this way much easier than it can be created in a real discourse. Especially in Germany it is frowned up by leftists to even talk with people from the right-wing spectrum. I get (1), but (2) makes me wonder whether we learned anything from history at all.
How does using a Twitter blocklist achieve 1)?
You keep them out of the loop to some degree and would check against that list during registration. It apparently catches some at least, I am told.
I also know of 2 larger conferences in Europe where accounts were monitored and if activity indicates the person is present, they were removed from the venue by security.
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#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
Perhaps - then tell him . The reason does not matter (especially since we are unlikely to hear it from anyone), what matters is that they refuse to say what it is. "Effort" is not an excuse either since they even replied to him - but with something unprofessional while still leaving out the reason for no good reason that I can think of. You can even mask it behind a more fuzzy reason if you think the specific reason…
Disagree. A while ago I experimented with giving job applicants honest feedback on why they were unsuccessful - not just the old platitudes like"there were stronger candidates". Big mistake. When you reject people, they really really want to dig in, know why and then refute or try to overturn that.
Did you read my comment? I already addressed that point, twice, two different aspects.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17440121
> it's not like they could be sued (first, Europe, second, just a Twitter block), so the usual (at least understandable) justifications e.g. when not giving reasons when not hiring someone don't apply.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17440185 (all of it, especially the 2nd half)
I would appreciate if you took what the commenter wrote into consideration when you respond. You don't need to change the topic and come up with something completely different - here, job rejections (which I even already mention).
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#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
They also tend to have the "you offended a random folk for the most ridiculous reason, and because we are so fragile, we will ostracize you for the rest of your life" mentality. Don't get me wrong: harassment or aggressive behavior are not right and should not be tolerated. But on the other hand, over-cautious attitude that make any controversial comment a potential aggression is a really worrying trend today. The ri…
Indeed, I was most disappointed when I looked at the Django Con Europe twitter and the first thing I saw was codes of conduct and comments about genders and bathrooms. I was wanting to read about Django.
Wow... Is there a way to live and work in tech without having to put up with all this shit ever again ? Why are those politics taking over everything.