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Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out 5000 cars in a week

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Re: Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out 5000 cars in a week

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Post by grecy »

atomical wrote: post #77
setquk wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep. He delivers. People are too obsessed about when. Shits’s complicated.

For shareholders and customers that makes sense. For everyone else not so much. There are a lot of people in the everyone else column who are happy to see an entrepreneur take risks.

> who are happy to see an entrepreneur take risks.

Are there really? I feel like a massive percentage of people are against Musk and Tesla precisely because he's trying to do something new, and take some risks.

It's like a majority of Americans don't want anyone to do anything radical anymore, like they're happy to stagnate.

Re: Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out 5000 cars in a week

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Post by briandear »

anothergoogler wrote: post #18
ArtWomb wrote: post #5

Finally got to drive Model 3 yesterday. A friend received his car a few days ago and let me try it on some suburban streets. Nothing fancy. But I did take it for a mini "drag race" against another buddy's Porsche 911. Again this was on a residential tree-lined street with kids playing outside. Not exactly fast and furious. But it definitely kept pace that first eighth of a mile ;) In my humble opinion it outclasses a…

> It may rapidly become the brand of choice for young, urban commuting professionals. Municipal rail is the brand of choice.

Still waiting on that train from Mountain View to Cupertino. Meanwhile, there is an Audi in the garage that can take me there anytime I want and a bus to take me there when I don’t feel like driving. I still find it really hard to take a week’s worth of groceries for a family of six on a train. Even if BART did go exactly where I needed, when I needed, I’m not inclined to risk Hepatitis or theft.

I understand that some people actually like being around strangers. I don’t. I like being in a mode of transportation where I can control the destination, temperature, aroma, and music. I don’t have to worry about people asking me for money or potentially assaulting me either. I don’t have to keep an eye on my bag, nor wait on platforms in all sorts of weather.

Public transport definitely has value, but ascribing it as the best choice is a viewpoint based on limited experience. When I was in Zurich, I felt much differently. But Zurich and the Bay Area are vastly different. They don’t have Prop 47 for instance.

Re: Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out 5000 cars in a week

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Post by avereveard »

timwaagh wrote: post #56

promising news i think. a friend of mine said they would go under. i dont really want them to go under though.

Unless you are the one to receive the tent assembled model 3. If past rushes are an indicator of the future to be I totally expect a large recall operation following this stunt

Re: Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out 5000 cars in a week

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Post by make3 »

aphextron wrote: post #70
JUDAS wrote: post #11

Musk has said to appear on Rogan's podcast when production of model 3 hits 5k/w. https://jrelibrary.com/upcoming-guests/ https://twitter.com/joerogan/status/1005924723983675392?lang...

I really hope Musk would not associate himself with MRA/Alt-Right stuff like that.

afaik Rogan is not alt right

Re: Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out 5000 cars in a week

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Post by Animats »

williamscales wrote: post #21

"It was not clear if Tesla could maintain that level of production for a longer period of time." I think this is the million dollar question—was this just a sprint effort to hit a milestone for PR sake or will they produce 5000 next week too?

Bloomberg's chart of Tesla Model 3 production[1] shows very low production rates in early June, around 1000. Maybe they saved some parts up for end of quarter. Let's see what happens over the next month.

A well-run production line produces about the same number of units per week. Tesla's weekly numbers are all over the place. Their cost per unit has to be very high, because the cost of running the plant is roughly constant as the output varies.

Eventually Tesla ought to get their plant debugged, but if they're doing assembly in a tent, that's in the future.

They also seem to be having trouble at the battery plant in Nevada, which is strange. That's a relatively simple product, and it's one they've built before.

[1] https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2018-tesla-tracker/

Re: Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out 5000 cars in a week

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Post by [deleted] »

aphextron wrote: post #70
JUDAS wrote: post #11

Musk has said to appear on Rogan's podcast when production of model 3 hits 5k/w. https://jrelibrary.com/upcoming-guests/ https://twitter.com/joerogan/status/1005924723983675392?lang...

I really hope Musk would not associate himself with MRA/Alt-Right stuff like that.

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Post by LoSboccacc »

ISL wrote: post #53
gameshot911 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Producing physical things is hard . Issues crop up every step. Of the way, and any one thing can have big downstream impacts. Just think of the web of supplies chains that feeds into the components that go into a car. And in Tesla's case, throw in the fact that they are still a new company and haven't had decades to iron out all the kinks.

The hardest part is the long-term testing. A failure mode that appears after ten or twenty years is the hardest to detect. Imagine the financial impact of "Tesla recalls every Model S ever made due to stress-corrosion cracking in a critical chassis component"....

Alfa had a mishap like that in the nineties and for thirty years sales dropped because “all alfa rust” even when the problem was long resolved, even when the actual model went out of production

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Post by antoniuschan99 »

ericb wrote: post #72
grecy wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> One cannot will anything one wants into existence Let's just see now. Musk wanted to grow a plant on Mars, and when the Russians pulled out of a deal to sell him a couple of ICBMs he decided he would will his own rocket into existence. Then he decided he wanted it to be reusable, so he willed that into existence when everyone said it was impossible. Then he wanted to strap three of them together, so he willed that…

Then he willed it to land standing up. On a barge. In the ocean. And an assembly line. In a tent. From a bunch of scraps.

It's starting to sound like the first chapter in the old testament haha

Re: Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out 5000 cars in a week

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Post by colordrops »

shawabawa3 wrote: post #63
colordrops wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Skepticism of hitting goals by certain dates are fair. But you are conflating skepticism of promises of meeting milestones with the ability to execute at all. They met the 5000 car a week goal. There was no promise of a date for a consistent 5000 cars a week. Is your claim that you are skeptical that they can ever hit a regular 5000 cars a week?

> There was no promise of a date for a consistent 5000 cars a week I'm pretty sure that was December 2017 [1] [1] "Chief Executive Elon Musk announced that production of its mass-market Model 3 would start this week and build to 20,000 per month in December. " - https://www.reuters.com/article/us-tesla-model-idUSKBN19O0GE

That's an old article, and Musk has since updated his estimates and dates, and was explicit that they would target burst builds before ramping full-time [1]. But that's beside the point - the question is, what is the source of skepticism of the ability to execute at all (not by a particular target date)? We can go back and forth on dates and numbers all day, but that's not my question.

[1] https://bgr.com/2018/04/17/elon-musk-model-3-production-6000...

Re: Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out 5000 cars in a week

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Post by andromeduck »

njarboe wrote: post #58

I would guess Tesla announces the 200,000th domestic sale sometime in the next week. They could be hitting their ramp-up to high production of the Model 3 right when they hit the 200k domestic electric car milestone. This also happens to be right at the beginning of a quarter so they can get as many $7500 federal tax credits for their customers as they can. One would guess this is not just some lucky coincidence, but…

That's only for American sales so no reason why they can't ramp production and just export to other markets.
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