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> It may rapidly become the brand of choice for young, urban commuting professionals. Municipal rail is the brand of choice.
There’s a lot of work you can’t get to on municipal rail.
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Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out 5000 cars in a week
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Re: Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out 5000 cars in a week
#52"It was not clear if Tesla could maintain that level of production for a longer period of time." I think this is the million dollar question—was this just a sprint effort to hit a milestone for PR sake or will they produce 5000 next week too?
Musk has been quite endurant so far. It's possible tesla will keep up, or not. As long as tesla doesn't die i'd bet Musk will find a way to crank up the next stage.
One cannot will anything one wants into existence.
At some point, he'll need to understand how to design an effective large-scale manufacturing system, and not simply yell for one.
Specifically, he should actually learn some things about managing people, and the place that has in producing quality at volume at speed. It's sad, because that's exactly the lesson Toyota was trying to teach at NUMMI, and their legacy has been totally forgotten by its new owner—at great cost. It's simply a shame.
> "According to this, they're using 7 times as many employees and still making less than a 1/5 of the cars NUMMI did when they had the factory." https://insideevs.com/teslas-fremont-factory/ -- via https://twitter.com/Benshooter/status/1012113642689519617
(albeit they're earlier in their maturity, for sure, but still)
Re: Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out 5000 cars in a week
#53Can anyone tell me why they are taking a long time to ramp up? This is not their first electric car and electric cars are supposed to have a lot fewer components than gasoline engine cars.
Producing physical things is hard . Issues crop up every step. Of the way, and any one thing can have big downstream impacts. Just think of the web of supplies chains that feeds into the components that go into a car. And in Tesla's case, throw in the fact that they are still a new company and haven't had decades to iron out all the kinks.
The hardest part is the long-term testing. A failure mode that appears after ten or twenty years is the hardest to detect.
Imagine the financial impact of "Tesla recalls every Model S ever made due to stress-corrosion cracking in a critical chassis component"....
Re: Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out 5000 cars in a week
#54> with the final car rolling off the assembly line on Sunday morning, several hours after the midnight goal set by Chief Executive Elon Musk
No, they missed the deadline, twice now. Lot of Muskites in these comments, remember, Tesla failed to meet the same deadline in January and pushed it to June. (EDIT: I've been told they missed this 3 times now, the 5K/wk figure was originally Dec '17, then Jan '18 then Jun '18).
When it was clear they would miss again, they put up a third production line in a canvas tent, which the NYT quoted as "never heard anything like this ever" using what Musk tweeted as "scrap we had in warehouses" to build the cars. And even then, and running all three lines 24/7 striving to hit that goal for just 7 consecutive days with the whole world watching... they still came up 150 cars short.
(5k/wk / 168 hrs/week = 30/hr * missing the deadline by 5 hours = 150 cars short)
Re: Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out 5000 cars in a week
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pretty strong words from someone who doesn't provide any evidence
Only evidence is every other report of burst production rates ever, but yeah, I am sure this time is different.
Still isn’t proof; fraud is a strong term. Throwing around such allegations with any proof is irresponsible. Has Tesla been convicted of fraud in the past?
Re: Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out 5000 cars in a week
#56promising news i think. a friend of mine said they would go under. i dont really want them to go under though.
Re: Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out 5000 cars in a week
#57Can anyone tell me why they are taking a long time to ramp up? This is not their first electric car and electric cars are supposed to have a lot fewer components than gasoline engine cars.
Producing low volume luxury cars and mass market $35,000 cars is very different. Mass manufactured cars must be designed for the manufacturing process in mind. Tesla is still constantly tweaking with the manufacturing process. The Model 3's they are delivering are still prototypes. Tesla's knows how to make the electric 'skateboard' and it's technically far ahead of others. They are struggling with the traditional pa…
Does anyone actually buy a $35k version? I tried to spec one recently and couldn’t get anything i felt was acceptable for under 68k
Re: Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out 5000 cars in a week
#58I would guess Tesla announces the 200,000th domestic sale sometime in the next week. They could be hitting their ramp-up to high production of the Model 3 right when they hit the 200k domestic electric car milestone. This also happens to be right at the beginning of a quarter so they can get as many $7500 federal tax credits for their customers as they can. One would guess this is not just some lucky coincidence, but who knows.
Re: Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out 5000 cars in a week
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
Musk has been quite endurant so far. It's possible tesla will keep up, or not. As long as tesla doesn't die i'd bet Musk will find a way to crank up the next stage.
One cannot will anything one wants into existence. At some point, he'll need to understand how to design an effective large-scale manufacturing system, and not simply yell for one. Specifically, he should actually learn some things about managing people, and the place that has in producing quality at volume at speed. It's sad, because that's exactly the lesson Toyota was trying to teach at NUMMI, and their legacy has…
> One cannot will anything one wants into existence
Let's just see now.
Musk wanted to grow a plant on Mars, and when the Russians pulled out of a deal to sell him a couple of ICBMs he decided he would will his own rocket into existence.
Then he decided he wanted it to be reusable, so he willed that into existence when everyone said it was impossible.
Then he wanted to strap three of them together, so he willed that into existence.
Then we wanted electric cars, so he willed into existence not only the best electric car ever, but one of the best cars ever, period (Model S)
etc. etc.
I think it unwise to underestimate Musk.
Re: Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out 5000 cars in a week
#60> with the final car rolling off the assembly line on Sunday morning, several hours after the midnight goal set by Chief Executive Elon Musk No, they missed the deadline, twice now. Lot of Muskites in these comments, remember, Tesla failed to meet the same deadline in January and pushed it to June. (EDIT: I've been told they missed this 3 times now, the 5K/wk figure was originally Dec '17, then Jan '18 then Jun '18).…
Okay Mr negative happy pants, who cares if they needed a tent to reach that goal, they reached it and the tent is not going anywhere.