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Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out 5000 cars in a week

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Re: Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out 5000 cars in a week

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Finally got to drive Model 3 yesterday. A friend received his car a few days ago and let me try it on some suburban streets. Nothing fancy. But I did take it for a mini "drag race" against another buddy's Porsche 911. Again this was on a residential tree-lined street with kids playing outside. Not exactly fast and furious. But it definitely kept pace that first eighth of a mile ;) In my humble opinion it outclasses a…

I find it hard to believe that it would outclass a C-class on interior luxury, a BMW on overall sportiness. I've driven all these cars, and when you get in a Tesla is definitely feels like a significant step down.

Re: Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out 5000 cars in a week

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Can anyone tell me why they are taking a long time to ramp up? This is not their first electric car and electric cars are supposed to have a lot fewer components than gasoline engine cars.

Producing physical things is hard. Issues crop up every step. Of the way, and any one thing can have big downstream impacts. Just think of the web of supplies chains that feeds into the components that go into a car. And in Tesla's case, throw in the fact that they are still a new company and haven't had decades to iron out all the kinks.

Re: Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out 5000 cars in a week

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Can anyone tell me why they are taking a long time to ramp up? This is not their first electric car and electric cars are supposed to have a lot fewer components than gasoline engine cars.

The first reason is probably just that manufacturing stuff is hard, especially at scale like this. It takes a while to get good at it, and develop processes and talent to ensure production lines move along smoothly.

The second reason is that I think they invested heavily in an ultra-automated factory, and they weren't able to get that working quite as well as they'd hoped in the time allotted.

These are sort of the high-level reasons, maybe somebody with more specific knowledge could give a more nitty-gritty explanation.

Re: Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out 5000 cars in a week

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Can anyone tell me why they are taking a long time to ramp up? This is not their first electric car and electric cars are supposed to have a lot fewer components than gasoline engine cars.

Although they did take over a car factory, they replaced all the internals. The 'reinventing the wheel' has led to initial mistakes (and lessons learned).

With the car industry about 100 years old, and fierce competition, the common wisdom can't be that foolish. So on the long term, structural improvements might well be possible, having ramp up problems when doing everything different is to be expected.

Re: Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out 5000 cars in a week

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Can anyone tell me why they are taking a long time to ramp up? This is not their first electric car and electric cars are supposed to have a lot fewer components than gasoline engine cars.

Producing physical things is hard . Issues crop up every step. Of the way, and any one thing can have big downstream impacts. Just think of the web of supplies chains that feeds into the components that go into a car. And in Tesla's case, throw in the fact that they are still a new company and haven't had decades to iron out all the kinks.

They've been around 15 years and they bought a modern manufacturing plant purpose built to make cars. They can buy talent. I won't cut them too much slack, supposedly they're worth more than GM. Now prove it.

Re: Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out 5000 cars in a week

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Finally got to drive Model 3 yesterday. A friend received his car a few days ago and let me try it on some suburban streets. Nothing fancy. But I did take it for a mini "drag race" against another buddy's Porsche 911. Again this was on a residential tree-lined street with kids playing outside. Not exactly fast and furious. But it definitely kept pace that first eighth of a mile ;) In my humble opinion it outclasses a…

> It may rapidly become the brand of choice for young, urban commuting professionals.

Municipal rail is the brand of choice.

Re: Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out 5000 cars in a week

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Can anyone tell me why they are taking a long time to ramp up? This is not their first electric car and electric cars are supposed to have a lot fewer components than gasoline engine cars.

The supply chain is hard. Supply chain optimization is even harder. And that's not even discussing manufacturing. One of the biggest issues we had in very very very early days of DigitalOcean was, how do we juggle leases/lines of credit, with their requirements for cash in bank, with being out of capacity every other day. This is months of negotiation and conversation, not just snapping the fingers. Some tangential insight: http://money.cnn.com/2008/11/09/technology/cook_apple.fortun...

Re: Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out 5000 cars in a week

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post #5

Finally got to drive Model 3 yesterday. A friend received his car a few days ago and let me try it on some suburban streets. Nothing fancy. But I did take it for a mini "drag race" against another buddy's Porsche 911. Again this was on a residential tree-lined street with kids playing outside. Not exactly fast and furious. But it definitely kept pace that first eighth of a mile ;) In my humble opinion it outclasses a…

I find it hard to believe that it would outclass a C-class on interior luxury, a BMW on overall sportiness. I've driven all these cars, and when you get in a Tesla is definitely feels like a significant step down.

For a lot of people, "sporty" means "torque" and that's about it.
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