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Re: Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat) Release Candidate

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This release uses a new interface font, which is the first major OS (that I know of, anyways) to not use a Helvetica-like font for their GUI. Mark Shuttleworth talks about the decision and impact on his blog: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/537

Macintosh prior to OSX used Chicago and Charcoal. These are fairly distinctive and aren't really "Helvetica-like" in my mind. Chicago in particular was pretty much synonymous with "Macintosh" and was used in early iPods. Pre-MacOS machines used fixed-width bitmapped fonts that fall more in the range of "programmer fonts" than Helvetica.

Nifty. I would have been 9 at the time :)

Re: Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat) Release Candidate

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This release uses a new interface font, which is the first major OS (that I know of, anyways) to not use a Helvetica-like font for their GUI. Mark Shuttleworth talks about the decision and impact on his blog: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/537

screenshots: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/09/ubuntu-1010-maverick-meerkat-...

Oh, nice to see a light, pale theme, like in Mac OS. It's much easier on the eyes, at least for me.

Re: Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat) Release Candidate

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On the other hand, I am getting tired of the way that Ubuntu is focusing so much on getting its fonts right, that critical aspects like suspend/resume are broken, but not fixed.

Bug 568711 (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/568711)... particularly nasty because it is a confirmed bug in suspend/resume that has a lot of people being affected by it - but has been relegated to medium severity and is currently unassigned.

Re: Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat) Release Candidate

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On the other hand, I am getting tired of the way that Ubuntu is focusing so much on getting its fonts right, that critical aspects like suspend/resume are broken, but not fixed. Bug 568711 ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/568711)... particularly nasty because it is a confirmed bug in suspend/resume that has a lot of people being affected by it - but has been relegated to medium severity and is c…

It seems highly improbably that the people working on fonts and design would otherwise be working on suspend/resume.

Medium severity sounds right for a bug that only affects users with certain hardware. High severity should be reserved for things with a wider impact, or else it loses its meaning.

Re: Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat) Release Candidate

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screenshots: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/09/ubuntu-1010-maverick-meerkat-...

Oh, nice to see a light, pale theme, like in Mac OS. It's much easier on the eyes, at least for me.

it was already there in the 10.04, albeit not default

Re: Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat) Release Candidate

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On the other hand, I am getting tired of the way that Ubuntu is focusing so much on getting its fonts right, that critical aspects like suspend/resume are broken, but not fixed. Bug 568711 ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/568711)... particularly nasty because it is a confirmed bug in suspend/resume that has a lot of people being affected by it - but has been relegated to medium severity and is c…

Couldn't agree more. Slightly tweaked fonts aren't the highest of priorities.

Re: Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat) Release Candidate

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Oh, nice to see a light, pale theme, like in Mac OS. It's much easier on the eyes, at least for me.

it was already there in the 10.04, albeit not default

Hm. Seems like they tweaked it tough? The theme in the screenshot looks much lighter than the Radiance theme in my 10.04 install.

Re: Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat) Release Candidate

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On the other hand, I am getting tired of the way that Ubuntu is focusing so much on getting its fonts right, that critical aspects like suspend/resume are broken, but not fixed. Bug 568711 ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/568711)... particularly nasty because it is a confirmed bug in suspend/resume that has a lot of people being affected by it - but has been relegated to medium severity and is c…

It seems highly improbably that the people working on fonts and design would otherwise be working on suspend/resume. Medium severity sounds right for a bug that only affects users with certain hardware. High severity should be reserved for things with a wider impact, or else it loses its meaning.

ordinarily I would agree, but there are a LOT of affected users with suspend/resume problems. Now, it might be statistically true that there are exponentially more people who are working on desktops - but there are an insignificant number of people using Ubuntu on laptops.

Why this bug is particularly significant is that the bug affects people with across very different hardware configurations, manufacturer and model.

Still, I grant that I do not know how does one figure out the issues with wider impact: but this particular one has 77 people marked on the "affects me" list. That is not an insignificant number (not the total number of people affected, but rather who bothered to search the tracker and then file a bug)

Re: Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat) Release Candidate

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On the other hand, I am getting tired of the way that Ubuntu is focusing so much on getting its fonts right, that critical aspects like suspend/resume are broken, but not fixed. Bug 568711 ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/568711)... particularly nasty because it is a confirmed bug in suspend/resume that has a lot of people being affected by it - but has been relegated to medium severity and is c…

Fonts were the most ugly part of Linux by far to me and the reason I bought an iBook long ago. The other reason was perfect hardware support so I could suspend / resume properly.

I don't expect Canonical to support all the hardware in the world, but everybody stares at the OS font all day long.

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