Google Downranks 65,000 Pirate Sites in Search Results • Hacker News Board

Re: Google Downranks 65,000 Pirate Sites in Search Results

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Post by andrewmcwatters » Sat, Jun 30, 2018, 4:30 PM UTC

iaml wrote: post #126

shiado wrote: post #124

I remember I used to do filetype searches for mp3, mp4, flac, etc... and get all sorts of good stuff. I would find ftp servers with thousands of songs and just download anything interesting. I feel like the Google search algorithm peaked many years ago and has gradually been neutered by all sorts of special interest groups who have no doubt harassed Google with legal threats. Google probably doesn't want to censor re…

It would be funny to see bing finally reach google search quality not because it got better, but because google got worse.

This is already frequently true depending on what you're looking for.

Re: Google Downranks 65,000 Pirate Sites in Search Results

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Post by digi_owl » Sat, Jun 30, 2018, 4:33 PM UTC

chongli wrote: post #131

abhiminator wrote: post #4

As much as I despise multi-billion dollar 'copyright holding' corporations, I feel this is a strategic move by Google to thrust more legitimate channels of media consumption (Netflix, Prime Video, Et al) to the top of the search results page. Having said that, people who actually use torrents regularly know their way around Google and other web-based search engines, and this move, therefore, should have little or no…

Forget pirate sites, Google is doing this for everything. I'm shocked at how often a search for some generic word or animal name brings up some company I've never heard of, with the Wikipedia page for that generic word buried at the bottom of the first page (sometimes pushed to the second page).

Really glad i switched to DDG for my random searches (i can always do a !g if i feel that the results are meaningless).

Re: Google Downranks 65,000 Pirate Sites in Search Results

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Post by dleslie » Sat, Jun 30, 2018, 4:34 PM UTC

ddtaylor wrote: post #108

swaggyBoatswain wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find myself using Bing all the time precisely for this reason. I would love to subscribe to netflix, hulu, hbo, etc but all my favorite TV shows are always on different networks. I wouldn't mind paying for the service (but not for 3 of them), but the online streaming mirrors are really good at what they do. Bing just works. Its has significantly less bias than google which is why I always use 2 search engines.

As a subscriber of Netflix it's trash for my tastes now. Many of the shows I did enjoy are no longer on the service and once my subscription runs out I won't be renewing it.

We did this for similar reasons; the documentary and edutainment selection ran dry, and the children's section had a terrible signal/noise.

Now we've been without any TV or streaming services for about six months, and relying on a Kodi box and my collection of ripped DVDs.

We spend more time together as a family.

Re: Google Downranks 65,000 Pirate Sites in Search Results

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Post by nafizh » Sat, Jun 30, 2018, 4:35 PM UTC

That is why if I need to download anything, I search with duckduckgo now.

Re: Google Downranks 65,000 Pirate Sites in Search Results

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Post by dalbasal » Sat, Jun 30, 2018, 4:37 PM UTC

andrewmcwatters wrote: post #151

iaml wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would be funny to see bing finally reach google search quality not because it got better, but because google got worse.

This is already frequently true depending on what you're looking for.

They probably do this the way Google usually does, some sort of probability of similarity. They don't know for sure if a picture is pornographic, or a piece of audio is fair use. Once they reach acceptable accuracy, in their calculus....

Re: Google Downranks 65,000 Pirate Sites in Search Results

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Post by Stratoscope » Sat, Jun 30, 2018, 4:42 PM UTC

becomingknown wrote: post #143

jrace wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

RT click on the image, choose "open image in new tab"

That opens the thumbnail of the image, not the image itself.

You must be right-clicking the thumbnail in the image search list.

Instead, first left-click the thumbnail to open the larger image preview. Then right-click the large preview image and select "open image in new tab". You will get the full image.

If anyone has an example where this doesn't work, I'd be curious to see it. It works every time for me.

Re: Google Downranks 65,000 Pirate Sites in Search Results

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Post by Stratoscope » Sat, Jun 30, 2018, 4:44 PM UTC

ghostly_s wrote: post #139

jrace wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

RT click on the image, choose "open image in new tab"

That is, by definition, not a link.

Sure, by definition. But that's a distinction without much of a difference. They removed the image link, but they didn't disable a fairly obvious and trivial way to go directly to the source image, just like the link used to do.

Re: Google Downranks 65,000 Pirate Sites in Search Results

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Post by swaggyBoatswain » Sat, Jun 30, 2018, 4:45 PM UTC

dleslie wrote: post #153

ddtaylor wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a subscriber of Netflix it's trash for my tastes now. Many of the shows I did enjoy are no longer on the service and once my subscription runs out I won't be renewing it.

We did this for similar reasons; the documentary and edutainment selection ran dry, and the children's section had a terrible signal/noise. Now we've been without any TV or streaming services for about six months, and relying on a Kodi box and my collection of ripped DVDs. We spend more time together as a family.

Sometimes I use popcorntime.sh (the open github repo mirror), run a VPN, and grab the .torrent file.

It only works if there are enough seeders, otherwise I have a seedbox that I FTP into for watching some movies I haven't seen yet.

Re: Google Downranks 65,000 Pirate Sites in Search Results

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Post by dawnerd » Sat, Jun 30, 2018, 4:47 PM UTC

AngryData wrote: post #7

Google has been trash for pirate content for awhile now. 9/10 sites it does show are fake and straight up malicious with like 50 different things trying to hijack your browser and make you install shit. Not that real pirate sites are exactly safe, but at least they actually provide what people are looking for.

So I was looking for an older movie a while back, not even necessarily to pirate but just if it was available anywhere. Tons of results on YouTube that were just hiurbking clips with a frame that said check description for url. Amazing google can’t stop those but they can do things like demobilize lgbt content.

Re: Google Downranks 65,000 Pirate Sites in Search Results

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Post by stcredzero » Sat, Jun 30, 2018, 4:50 PM UTC

shiado wrote: post #124

I remember I used to do filetype searches for mp3, mp4, flac, etc... and get all sorts of good stuff. I would find ftp servers with thousands of songs and just download anything interesting. I feel like the Google search algorithm peaked many years ago and has gradually been neutered by all sorts of special interest groups who have no doubt harassed Google with legal threats. Google probably doesn't want to censor re…

Google probably doesn't want to censor results the way they have been forced to.

From what I've seen, there is a large contingent of Google who doesn't want to provide unfettered access to information. Rather, this contingent wants to socially engineer everyone for the better using their power.