Google Downranks 65,000 Pirate Sites in Search Results • Hacker News Board

Re: Google Downranks 65,000 Pirate Sites in Search Results

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Post by kokx » Sat, Jun 30, 2018, 3:10 PM UTC

bproven wrote: post #118

kokx wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So far, I really like ProtonMail as a gmail replacement. Their web interface is great. It costs quite a bit more money though (compared to free gmail). I've been using it for half a year now, and the only gmail features I miss (their spam filtering and automatically prioritizing mails) are those that require them to read your mail. Which I like that they cannot.

How do you get around not being able to search email in protonmail? At least in the web client which is all I use in gmail.

You can actually search quite well in ProtonMail. Though it only searches some email headers (title, sender, receiver etc) and tags. Those are not stored encrypted. But it doesn't search the body of your emails.

Re: Google Downranks 65,000 Pirate Sites in Search Results

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Post by bproven » Sat, Jun 30, 2018, 3:18 PM UTC

kokx wrote: post #121

bproven wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you get around not being able to search email in protonmail? At least in the web client which is all I use in gmail.

You can actually search quite well in ProtonMail. Though it only searches some email headers (title, sender, receiver etc) and tags. Those are not stored encrypted. But it doesn't search the body of your emails.

yea- that is what I meant - you couldnt search email bodies.

Re: Google Downranks 65,000 Pirate Sites in Search Results

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Post by briandear » Sat, Jun 30, 2018, 3:22 PM UTC

jstalin wrote: post #105

If only they would downrank sites that exist purely to defame: ripoffreport, stdreport, blacklistreport, etc.

I would add sites that exist to extort in that same category. (i.e mugshot sites, and those “claim your business support site” sites.)

Re: Google Downranks 65,000 Pirate Sites in Search Results

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Post by shiado » Sat, Jun 30, 2018, 3:22 PM UTC

I remember I used to do filetype searches for mp3, mp4, flac, etc... and get all sorts of good stuff. I would find ftp servers with thousands of songs and just download anything interesting. I feel like the Google search algorithm peaked many years ago and has gradually been neutered by all sorts of special interest groups who have no doubt harassed Google with legal threats. Google probably doesn't want to censor results the way they have been forced to. Even pdf filetype searches got ruined too because Elsevier and JSTOR probably harassed Google as well. The recent change to Google images where they removed links to images made me switch to Bing.

Re: Google Downranks 65,000 Pirate Sites in Search Results

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Post by pwaai » Sat, Jun 30, 2018, 3:24 PM UTC

I'm actually pirating a lot less. I started to buy / rent movies on Youtube. Youtube Premium also lets me watch everything with zero ads. Netflix is a major staple.

The fact of the matter is, the "Steamification" of mainstream media is almost complete. iTunes, Steam, Youtube Music, Spotify, Netflix, Prime.

In the future we will be able to stream new movies, possibly infinite variations created on the fly by AI.

Imagine an AI that has watched every possible recorded moving pictures and is able to conjure up entire new story plots, characters, and visuals on their own that caters exactly to the viewer.

Also its harder to download torrents now so I naturally just pay for it if I really need it. The only way I would torrent something is if it was not available for purchase.

Re: Google Downranks 65,000 Pirate Sites in Search Results

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Post by iaml » Sat, Jun 30, 2018, 3:24 PM UTC

shiado wrote: post #124

I remember I used to do filetype searches for mp3, mp4, flac, etc... and get all sorts of good stuff. I would find ftp servers with thousands of songs and just download anything interesting. I feel like the Google search algorithm peaked many years ago and has gradually been neutered by all sorts of special interest groups who have no doubt harassed Google with legal threats. Google probably doesn't want to censor re…

It would be funny to see bing finally reach google search quality not because it got better, but because google got worse.

Re: Google Downranks 65,000 Pirate Sites in Search Results

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Post by waterphone » Sat, Jun 30, 2018, 3:27 PM UTC

They're doing this sort of thing a lot more often, it seems like, whether through manual actions targeting specific sites or algorithm changes that suddenly take a high quality top ranked page and disappear it from results entirely. It's happened to me where I had the most relevant result for a search term (in fact, it's the website that popularized that term) and now it's gone from all Google results. It's still the top result on every other search engine, but I've been unable to get it back at all on Google.

Re: Google Downranks 65,000 Pirate Sites in Search Results

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Post by klez » Sat, Jun 30, 2018, 3:30 PM UTC

hungerstrike wrote: post #85

Are there any apps that perform searches on multiple search engines and combine the results?

You mean a meta-engine? Like Duckduckgo? Or you actually mean an app you can install?

Re: Google Downranks 65,000 Pirate Sites in Search Results

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Post by tribler » Sat, Jun 30, 2018, 3:30 PM UTC

mintplant wrote: post #110

icebraining wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.tribler.org/ , which is developed by a not-for-profit research group supported by EU and Dutch research funding, does distributed torrent search without any central server. It's been around for almost a decade now.

Careful, all Tribler users are effectively exit nodes in Tor terminology. Other users' downloads will appear to come from your IP as your machine participates in the proxy network. This is spelled out exactly nowhere on their site, which I think is brazenly irresponsible.

Incorrect. You need to check the box in settings called 'become exit node'.

Thnx for mentioning us btw! With 13 years running and our bandwidth token for Bittorrent (no ICO) it seems we're the only team left doing innovations. All other p2p teams seem to have died in the p2p winter.

Re: Google Downranks 65,000 Pirate Sites in Search Results

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Post by on_and_off » Sat, Jun 30, 2018, 3:40 PM UTC

shiado wrote: post #124

I remember I used to do filetype searches for mp3, mp4, flac, etc... and get all sorts of good stuff. I would find ftp servers with thousands of songs and just download anything interesting. I feel like the Google search algorithm peaked many years ago and has gradually been neutered by all sorts of special interest groups who have no doubt harassed Google with legal threats. Google probably doesn't want to censor re…

you do know images links are still there ? you just need to click on them.