Can France Create Its Own MIT?
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Can France Create Its Own MIT?
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Re: Can France Create Its Own MIT?
#2Why isn't the ENS part of this? The best math and science students go there.
Re: Can France Create Its Own MIT?
#3Why isn't the ENS part of this? The best math and science students go there.
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Re: Can France Create Its Own MIT?
#4Why isn't the ENS part of this? The best math and science students go there.
Guess Ecole Poly is good enough. Is ENS more like the Harvard/Oxford, and EP more like the MIT/Cambridge of France? This would be my layman reading of the situation, charitably not invoking politics.
Re: Can France Create Its Own MIT?
#5Honestly sounds too big.
Isn't a bit of the appeal of elite institutions that they put elite people in close proximity to each other? Adding a lot of padding* in between them would make it harder for them to find and get to know each other.
*I am fully aware that in this context I am considered padding
Re: Can France Create Its Own MIT?
#6No 42 in the list, sad
Re: Can France Create Its Own MIT?
#7Why isn't the ENS part of this? The best math and science students go there.
Guess Ecole Poly is good enough. Is ENS more like the Harvard/Oxford, and EP more like the MIT/Cambridge of France? This would be my layman reading of the situation, charitably not invoking politics.
EP and ENS are both excellent schools. I am a mathematician and mathematics is more traditionally associated with ENS than with EP, but I've met excellent mathematicians, at all level of career (from PhD student to full professor) from both schools.
My impression is that all the French Grandes Ecoles are trying to expand their range of activities and subjects, reducing the level of diversification.
Re: Can France Create Its Own MIT?
#8No 42 in the list, sad
42 doesn't have anything close to those schools regarding general science curriculum. No serious maths, no chemistry or physics , no engineering. It's a very good school if you want to learn to code in 3 years, but let's not make it anything else...
Re: Can France Create Its Own MIT?
#9I doubt it. Laboratories which teach and work in English have a huge advantage in modern academia because they are able to draw in talent from a far larger pool.
The majority of international academics working in France are from other Romance language countries. I presume the other Romance language countries have the same problem as France.
Re: Can France Create Its Own MIT?
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
Guess Ecole Poly is good enough. Is ENS more like the Harvard/Oxford, and EP more like the MIT/Cambridge of France? This would be my layman reading of the situation, charitably not invoking politics.
EP and ENS are both excellent schools. I am a mathematician and mathematics is more traditionally associated with ENS than with EP, but I've met excellent mathematicians, at all level of career (from PhD student to full professor) from both schools. My impression is that all the French Grandes Ecoles are trying to expand their range of activities and subjects, reducing the level of diversification.
Well I guess "more traditionally associated" is one way to put it, but... 11 out of France's 12 fields medal came from people who studied at ENS. The only other country to even have 11 or more fields medal is the USA at 13. They literally exude math competency.