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The US Mint lost $69M making pennies last year

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Re: The US Mint lost $69M making pennies last year

#31

Wondering if someone is collecting them and extracting the metals out and selling for a profit?

There are people storing up closets full of the old full-copper pennies waiting for the day that the penny is discontinued and they can get scrap value that is higher than the face value. For now they aren't allowed to deface money so they're just storing them. I don't even know if it's worth the time spent sorting, but everyone needs a hobby.

Re: The US Mint lost $69M making pennies last year

#33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. Most purchases are not made with cash and fewer people are using cash every year. You're basically saying that all consumers should pay more with every purchase so that the mint can make https://www.frbsf.org/cash/files/figure-3-2015dcpc-share-of-...

I bet in general it would save money. Many things price ends in .99 to trick people into thinking it is cheaper. All those things would switch to .95 in order to preserve the trick.

You are forgetting sale tax which changes the final price (if there exists tax is your region)

Re: The US Mint lost $69M making pennies last year

#34
Am I the only one who views pennies like an extreme annoyance? I would rather throw pennies in the trash than have them. They are literally THAT worthless. They take up far more space and weight than they offer in value. It seems like such a massive waste to continue using valuable metals to create something so worthless.

Honestly, I think quarters should be the only coin we have.

Re: The US Mint lost $69M making pennies last year

#35
post #10

Canada got rid of the penny 5 years ago and the paper $1 in the 80s. We also switched to metric in the 70s. We’re not that dissimilar from the US but they seem to have an inability to make these kinds of systemic changes.

Walking around with 2 lbs of loonies and toonies in your pocket sucks to be honest. That said, I probably use cash a handful of times each year. Getting rid of the penny was smart though.

I think we rushed away the penny too quickly. Glad they stopped at 2 dollars the 50 dollar coin just doesn't seem right.

Re: The US Mint lost $69M making pennies last year

#36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. Most purchases are not made with cash and fewer people are using cash every year. You're basically saying that all consumers should pay more with every purchase so that the mint can make https://www.frbsf.org/cash/files/figure-3-2015dcpc-share-of-...

What I've been reading in the comments about this story on reddit is Canada and other countries already did this (eliminate the penny) and the final price is rounded to the nearest nickel, not always up.

Cash purchases in Canada are indeed rounded to the nearest nickel; it is not always up. Credit/debit purchases are still to the penny, as there is no reason for them not to be. All cash purchases average out to no change over time, and I don't know anybody who misses pennies. I wish they'd drop the nickel next.

Re: The US Mint lost $69M making pennies last year

#38

Canada got rid of the penny 5 years ago and the paper $1 in the 80s. We also switched to metric in the 70s. We’re not that dissimilar from the US but they seem to have an inability to make these kinds of systemic changes.

The greatest thing about this comment (besides being a fact and a very valid point) is that it comes second after a bunch of apparent Americans fighting over why the penny can’t or shouldn’t be removed as though nobody knows what it would really be like.

We Americans are so stupid.

Re: The US Mint lost $69M making pennies last year

#39
post #7

The point of the mint is making money, not making money.

Yeah, the headline seems dumb. If the mint creates a $100 bill for $1.50, did they make $98.50? No. The purpose of the mint is to maintain the US currency. It's a cost center, not a profit center.

"Making" and "creating" are pretty ambiguous here.

The mint literally creates physical money (coins). But in the end, the government actually does generate revenue, that gets calculated into a profit or loss for the country:

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/seigniorage.asp

$100 bills DO generate profit. Pennies generate a loss. If you look at all of the currency in aggregate, it generates positive revenue for the country.

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