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Anyone using Crystal in production? What do you use it for?
Really impressed with the language so far and hope to expand its use within our organization.
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No opinion as I didn't look at it. I was more focused on more mature languages and Crystal came up on my radar so I read around it.
Hrm. Your post implies that Crystal is more mature than Nim, is that intentional? If so, what makes you think that?
I know absolutely nothing about Nim so I can't comment either way.
That was the deal breaker for me with crystal, toy project of maybe a few hundred lines of code taking 30+s to compile
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Probably because they loved the language. Humans are humans, and not everything is made with a rational financial decision. If you use the language, and like ruby and static typing, you'll find that there's a lot to love.
I see your point, but I sympathise with it less and less as time goes on. Programming languages are just tools. Software development should strive to be a proper, rational, engineering discipline. Humans aren't robots, but one's choice of development tools is steered by real forces, both technical and business. I don't see that whim, unconstrained by such forces, has any place in the decision. Same goes for curiosity…
I'm not here to recommend people use it in production, but I can understand the mindset of people who do.
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Probably because they loved the language. Humans are humans, and not everything is made with a rational financial decision. If you use the language, and like ruby and static typing, you'll find that there's a lot to love.
I see your point, but I sympathise with it less and less as time goes on. Programming languages are just tools. Software development should strive to be a proper, rational, engineering discipline. Humans aren't robots, but one's choice of development tools is steered by real forces, both technical and business. I don't see that whim, unconstrained by such forces, has any place in the decision. Same goes for curiosity…
Well, to use an analogy from civil engineering, I don't think choosing a programming language is always as critical as which type of concrete you choose and how it's reinforced. While it's true you wouldn't choose just any language, there is more room for preference here. Especially because you can switch languages for a project, but practically can't switch the material used in the foundation of a building.
> I just wouldn't want to try to argue to management that using it is in the company's best interest.
In some companies you don't need to argue with management about that decision. Also, a language being less popular or obscure doesn't mean you can't evaluate it's stability and feel comfortable enough with where it's at to use it. I'm glad people do because otherwise we wouldn't even see any language as popular as it is.
Are compilation times still incredibly slow? That was the deal breaker for me with crystal, toy project of maybe a few hundred lines of code taking 30+s to compile edit: specifically a static release compile, with shards build --no-debug --release --link-flags "-static"
Are compilation times still incredibly slow? That was the deal breaker for me with crystal, toy project of maybe a few hundred lines of code taking 30+s to compile edit: specifically a static release compile, with shards build --no-debug --release --link-flags "-static"
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I'm not sure why anyone would actually use it in the current state, unstable, lack of libraries, lack of community and the biggest problem no multi-threading / windows support
We use it in production. The web framework side of crystal is IMO more mature than what you find in Node.js, Python, etc. About a year ago we tried moving everything to Express because it's super easy to find fledgling js developers, but Express simply lacked most of the features we needed, even when supplemented by npm, whereas Amber did everything we needed literally out of the box. Edit: Sails is not what it claim…
Whoa, that's where you lost me. Sails has a reputation for being horrible, and after working on a production app using Sails, I agree. Perhaps you were wanting something like Rails but in JS, which is what Sails claims to be, but it barely lives up to that. I don't know if there are other frameworks that try to be the Rails of JS but it wouldn't be hard to better than Sails. I'm interested in hearing why you think it's so sane (no snark, I'm sincerely curious)
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We use it in production. The web framework side of crystal is IMO more mature than what you find in Node.js, Python, etc. About a year ago we tried moving everything to Express because it's super easy to find fledgling js developers, but Express simply lacked most of the features we needed, even when supplemented by npm, whereas Amber did everything we needed literally out of the box. Edit: Sails is not what it claim…
> Sails.js is probably the closest thing to sane in the JS web framework ecosystem Whoa, that's where you lost me. Sails has a reputation for being horrible, and after working on a production app using Sails, I agree. Perhaps you were wanting something like Rails but in JS, which is what Sails claims to be, but it barely lives up to that. I don't know if there are other frameworks that try to be the Rails of JS but i…