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Re: A Bank for Student Hackers

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This is a great idea. Having said that, school groups do spend money, bands, clubs and etc.... how are the others doing it successfully? "The only person who had access to the bank account was the principal, but nobody knew where he was. 24 hours later, Jake and I were on the phone with the vice principal who was also left in the dark. A week later, the principal showed up in Tokyo and the money was still completely…

I blame lawyers.

Re: A Bank for Student Hackers

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Sorry, should definitely clarify better - it comes down to whether you're filing a 1023 or a 1023EZ. Many events need to file 1023 due to expected annual budget being over $50K. I'm happy you were able to get your status so quickly. It took us about a year. The filing fee for the 1023 alone is $600. The IRS has an overview of the expected timelines at https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/charitable-organiz... ,…

If you are running events in the 50k range you have capital to manage the process. I still fail to see the argument you are making, few groups as you mention here are running 50k events.

The funds are best disbursed through a non-profit because most high school students do not know about legal and accounting procedures. Say an after-school club raises 20k intended for the annual budget. Sponsors which might be individuals but more than likely are companies will not write a check to any student but rather write a check to the school. Schools alone have many bureaucratic hurdles that make managing club funds inefficient. Therefore, although Clubs might have in paper 20k or say even 50k that money is being held by the school or another organization whose priority is not acting as the middleman, therefore, causing delays and all sorts of problems. Tackling a very cumbersome challenge, congrats Hack Club!

Re: A Bank for Student Hackers

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post #40

This is a great idea. Having said that, school groups do spend money, bands, clubs and etc.... how are the others doing it successfully? "The only person who had access to the bank account was the principal, but nobody knew where he was. 24 hours later, Jake and I were on the phone with the vice principal who was also left in the dark. A week later, the principal showed up in Tokyo and the money was still completely…

Most store money with their school, but rarely have budgets exceeding $1K. Clubs with larger budgets like band typically have much heavier faculty involvement, which is often not the case with Hack Clubs.

For Kapaa High School, the money is still sitting today in a restricted bank account only the principal has access to - the trip never happened and the donors are frustrated, to say the least.

Re: A Bank for Student Hackers

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This is a great idea and solves a huge headache for hackathon organizers. Dealing with taxes and a multiple university accounts was a huge hassle at Bitcamp. We eventually became a non-profit which took over a year to complete. It would have been great to be able to use a service like this instead. Though, given the size of Bitcamp compared to most hackathons, it probably still would make sense to go through the extra effort to be our own non-profit entity.

Re: A Bank for Student Hackers

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Plenty of high school kids have bank accounts here. That's not the issue. The problem is that a personal bank account doesn't qualify as a non-profit under U.S. tax laws. So donors can't write off the donation and the kid would be assessed income taxes on the donation.

Huh, that makes it even stranger. How do you e.g. share flats? Buy tickets for a concert as a group? Buy a plane ticket as a group? This is basic stuff...

None of those are donations, nor are they anywhere near being tax deductible.

Again, you're focused on a totally different issue. There's nothing wrong with splitting costs or reimbursing a friend who bought you something.

Splitting rent or cab fare, etc. is fine, but that certainly doesn't mean a H.S. kid can receive $50k in "donations" in his/her personal bank account without worrying about the tax implications. That's the issue the OP is trying to address.

Re: A Bank for Student Hackers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Huh, that makes it even stranger. How do you e.g. share flats? Buy tickets for a concert as a group? Buy a plane ticket as a group? This is basic stuff...

None of those are donations, nor are they anywhere near being tax deductible. Again, you're focused on a totally different issue. There's nothing wrong with splitting costs or reimbursing a friend who bought you something. Splitting rent or cab fare, etc. is fine, but that certainly doesn't mean a H.S. kid can receive $50k in "donations" in his/her personal bank account without worrying about the tax implications. Th…

I see now, thanks.
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