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Re: Most Americans Think Facebook and Twitter Censor Their Political Views

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Post by belorn »

TaylorAlexander wrote: post #286
josteink wrote: post #275

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> microagressions Anyone who claims to have been exposed to "microagressions" simply because they have been talking to people of a different view-point, are exactly the people who need more "microagressions". This kinda thing here is exactly what is killing the current political left. I honestly think they mean well, but with stuff like this it's hard to take them seriously. Had they only harmed themselves, it might…

I disagree. I think a lot of people not familiar with the term micro aggression think it’s all stupid. But I have been feeling as though I understand better what people mean when they use the term micro aggression. They’re talking about people being rude, inconsiderate, or mean and not even realizing it. And the term micro aggression is used to communicate that they feel uncomfortable and they want the other to recog…

What should we do when someone is feeling uncomfortable simply because someone else is has an opposing political view?

Feeling disgust at an political view is a well established medical phenomenon. It trigger the same brain region as smelling rotten food, garbage and contaminated water. How would we go about to prevent triggering this reaction?

Re: Most Americans Think Facebook and Twitter Censor Their Political Views

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Post by digi_owl »

ryanx435 wrote: post #321
rjkennedy98 wrote: post #212

I talked to an ex-twitter employee I met in Ireland at bar. He told me very candidly that twitter employees loathed Milo Yiannopolous and were actively trying to figure out any way to ban him. Not a fan of Milo, but there are clearly agendas which can't be extricated from politics.

I met Milo one time. We had a few beers and discussed an investment opportunity. When he isn't playing his troll persona he is actually a very intelligent and reasonable person.

> very intelligent

So of the biggest trolls are just that. Trying to paint "trolls" are some drooling man-child in a basement does the world a massive disservice.

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Post by StanislavPetrov »

otterley wrote: post #320
rjkennedy98 wrote: post #212

I talked to an ex-twitter employee I met in Ireland at bar. He told me very candidly that twitter employees loathed Milo Yiannopolous and were actively trying to figure out any way to ban him. Not a fan of Milo, but there are clearly agendas which can't be extricated from politics.

Twitter could have easily banned him, and others like him, if they had the will to. It’s their platform and they’re free to exclude anyone they like. The fact that they don’t is, in my view, rooted simply in a desire to remain neutral in an attempt to prevent their MAU growth from declining and resulting in lower advertising income and less attractiveness to investors. In other words, it’s a business decision. Twitte…

>The fact that they don’t is, in my view, rooted simply in a desire to remain neutral

Appear neutral. If they wanted to actually be neutral they wouldn't use shadowbans and other "hidden" mechanisms to silence and/or censor users whose agenda (political or otherwise) they didn't agree with.

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Post by StanislavPetrov »

sheepmullet wrote: post #347
sheepmullet wrote: post #308

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The fake news seems to be jumping on Milo when the shooters motives are currently unknown.

For anyone still following this discussion: We now have evidence the shooting had nothing to do with Milos comments: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5898141/At-four-shot... Yet at least two people on this thread are acting like there is credible evidence his tweets caused the shooting. This is the danger of fake news!

No, this is the danger to jumping to conclusions based on preconceptions. There are plenty of people whose minds were made up about the motives for this attack before being misled by false media accounts or 'fake news'.

Re: Most Americans Think Facebook and Twitter Censor Their Political Views

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Post by wu-ikkyu »

pjc50 wrote: post #349
wu-ikkyu wrote: post #303

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How many examples do you require? Conservative comedian Owen Benjamin being banned from Twitter for life is but one: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wehNVE7_G24

For being homophobic to one of the mass shooting victims? http://www.adirondackdailyenterprise.com/news/local-news/201...

Like it or not (I don't), he was expressing his political opinions, albeit in a tactless way. Social media is overrun with much worse garbage and people are not banned for such.

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Post by throwawayjava »

AmericanChopper wrote: post #346
gnicholas wrote: post #242

Interesting that although Republicans are more likely to think that social media platforms are biased against them, they are less likely to think that such platforms should be subject to increased government regulation. As a cynic, I was expecting that Republicans might want more regulation here (in contravention of their general desire for less regulation) because it would be in their own interests. Note: I'm not sa…

As a Republican, and a conservative, freedom of expression is one of the principles I hold most dear. It used to also be a principle embraced by liberals, but they seem to have widely abandoned it, you don’t see conservatives going around trying to “no platform” people (which is an insidious euphemism). It is also one of the core principles the Internet was founded on, or at least of the early internet subculture. Sa…

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Re: Most Americans Think Facebook and Twitter Censor Their Political Views

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Post by sheepmullet »

StanislavPetrov wrote: post #354
sheepmullet wrote: post #347

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For anyone still following this discussion: We now have evidence the shooting had nothing to do with Milos comments: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5898141/At-four-shot... Yet at least two people on this thread are acting like there is credible evidence his tweets caused the shooting. This is the danger of fake news!

No, this is the danger to jumping to conclusions based on preconceptions. There are plenty of people whose minds were made up about the motives for this attack before being misled by false media accounts or 'fake news'.

> There are plenty of people whose minds were made up about the motives for this attack before being misled by false media accounts or 'fake news'.

How? Without the fake news how would any of this be linked to Milo?

In fact without any of the fake news why would this be linked to the right wing at all?

If CNNs headquarters were shot up I'd understand - but why would anyone on the right target a random small center-left newspaper?

Preconceptions should at least make some sense!

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Post by lloyd-christmas »

doubleunplussed wrote: post #316
vzqx wrote: post #270

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http://facebook.com/ads/preferences/behaviors Apparently I'm 'very conservative'... probably because of my friend group, since I've never posted anything political on Facebook.

This link gives "Sorry, something went wrong" for me. Anyone know why? It is only available in some countries?

It's not a distinct page for me, but instead an accordion section. I had to go to:

https://www.facebook.com/ads/preferences

And then open Your Information > Your Categories. I assume this is what they are talking about.

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Post by hungerstrike »

glitchc wrote: post #51

Everyone at one point has made a comment that has been downvoted or moderated out of existence. The rejection sticks in your mind. Effectively, that is censorship.

There's a ton of liberal west coast idealists on HN who pretty much hate anyone who isn't exactly like them or who they don't understand. They think they're better than everyone else with their Macs and their pure functional programming.

These people can only exist in a bubble though. Most people outside that bubble are laughing at them.

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Post by AmericanChopper »

throwawayjava wrote: post #356
AmericanChopper wrote: post #346

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As a Republican, and a conservative, freedom of expression is one of the principles I hold most dear. It used to also be a principle embraced by liberals, but they seem to have widely abandoned it, you don’t see conservatives going around trying to “no platform” people (which is an insidious euphemism). It is also one of the core principles the Internet was founded on, or at least of the early internet subculture. Sa…

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