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Marketing Firm Exactis Leaked a Personal Info Database with 340M Records

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Post by Normal_gaussian »

hopeless wrote: post #160

A lot of people complained that GDPR was too onerous on small firms and that they should be exempt. According to LinkedIn https://ie.linkedin.com/company/exactis-llc Exactis has just 10 employees (obviously some error possible. Call it 15-20?) Now do you think small firms can’t hold large quantities of damaging data?

notably in the UK the size of a company is determined not just on employee numbers, but on turnover as well. For example in UK Government guidance on lodging company accounts with Companies House[0] it says:

"There are thresholds for turnover, balance sheet total (meaning the total of the fixed and current assets) and the average number of employees, which determine whether your company is a micro-entity, small or medium-sized."

And there are different requirements for each

[0] https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/life-of-a-company...

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Post by krageon »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #164
krageon wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Practically everyone knows about the second world war, but nothing is being done about rising fascism. It has nothing to do with not knowing, it's just stupidity.

What do you suppose can be done about it?

If you need a good example, look at Germany. They have very strict laws about it and while there are still fascists there (as there are everywhere), they do not run the country.

Edit: On a more practical note, it's always baffled me how normalised it is. People who defend fascists in the US media are still respected and hired. They might be prominent political figures. Somehow calling attention to someone who is fascist is confused by anyone doing something as simple as saying "liberals are evil!", as if the two party system there has anything to do with racial supremacy. As an outsider, you look at it and think "This is the country that helped liberate Europe from the Nazis. How are they not ashamed?". Maybe I think the first step is allowing shame to enter into things when you think about your nation, instead of a quasi-religious patriotism.

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Post by omginternets »

axaxs wrote: post #14

When will this stop? When's the last straw? If I gave a bank 100 dollars, and they lost it, I'd have avenues with which to pursue some sort of justice. If I give a company my data, and they lose it, oh well. I wish all personal data was treated like HIPAA, at a minimum.

> my data

Data about you is not (necessarily) data you own.

I'm not saying it's right, but any reasonable discussion has to take this legal landscape into account.

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Post by _oya8 »

More and more this just feels like the modern crisis of capitalism. The declining rate of profit is so extreme that we have to institute a corporate marketing panopticon designed to sell you shit you don't need, to the extent we're willing to risk that panopticon leaking dangerous information to non-state actors that could lead to theft, extortion, or worse.

And we're not even beginning to think about what this can be used for by authoritarian regimes (cf. https://www.madamasr.com/en/2014/09/29/opinion/u/you-are-bei...)

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Post by erickj »

hhh wrote: post #4

With reasonable verification, anyone confirmed to be a part of this breach should be given access to the data, if only for good will. It's a sad state to see that the recklessness (or incompetence) of one entity, and at that a private one, can quickly become a domino in a chain that ends in toppling a person's privacy. They advertise themselves as having the most accurate data (why wouldn't they advertise themselves…

"anyone confirmed to be a part of this breach should be given access to the data"

but how would they ever get the contact information for all of those people? surely that's private information....

oh... right ಠ_ಠ

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Post by faho »

lucb1e wrote: post #169
hopeless wrote: post #160

A lot of people complained that GDPR was too onerous on small firms and that they should be exempt. According to LinkedIn https://ie.linkedin.com/company/exactis-llc Exactis has just 10 employees (obviously some error possible. Call it 15-20?) Now do you think small firms can’t hold large quantities of damaging data?

That sounds a lot like "I told you so" tone when I still disagree with you. But in case you're here to talk about it and not just to assert your version of the truth, no, I don't think anyone ever claimed that small corps are a loophole. Then big corps would just delegate it to a shell company and be done with it. European law is, to the best of my knowledge, fairly reasonable: if you do something wrong regarding pri…

What I'd love to know is how much of that is codified law (as in in the actual act) as opposed to just expected to come from reasonable courts.

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Post by [deleted] »

hopeless wrote: post #160

A lot of people complained that GDPR was too onerous on small firms and that they should be exempt. According to LinkedIn https://ie.linkedin.com/company/exactis-llc Exactis has just 10 employees (obviously some error possible. Call it 15-20?) Now do you think small firms can’t hold large quantities of damaging data?

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Post by eli »

lucb1e wrote: post #169
hopeless wrote: post #160

A lot of people complained that GDPR was too onerous on small firms and that they should be exempt. According to LinkedIn https://ie.linkedin.com/company/exactis-llc Exactis has just 10 employees (obviously some error possible. Call it 15-20?) Now do you think small firms can’t hold large quantities of damaging data?

That sounds a lot like "I told you so" tone when I still disagree with you. But in case you're here to talk about it and not just to assert your version of the truth, no, I don't think anyone ever claimed that small corps are a loophole. Then big corps would just delegate it to a shell company and be done with it. European law is, to the best of my knowledge, fairly reasonable: if you do something wrong regarding pri…

The "you won't get big fines if you try your best" thing isn't in the law. I believe you that it is probably true, but it relies on the reasonableness of all current and future regulators. I don't like that.

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Post by jacquesm »

castis wrote: post #170
jimjimjim wrote: post #141

there is never any punishment for corporations. death's too good for them.

What a shitty thing to say. Suggesting that death is a reasonable response to this is absurd.

A corporation dying is the equivalent of revoking their corporate charter, no reason to respond as though we're talking about actual people.
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