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Japan's 'Naked Hermit' Pried from Island Utopia After 29 Years

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Re: Japan's 'Naked Hermit' Pried from Island Utopia After 29 Years

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Post by Ntrails »

laumars wrote: post #39
pasabagi wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

...of candy. (In any case, isn't public nakedness also a crime? It is in many countries.)

It maybe a crime in highly religious counties but it's actually perfectly legal in many countries (as well as some states in the US). In the UK you can get arrested for "indecent exposure", which I believe basically means someone has to be offered by your nakedness. Which means nude beaches, organised naked cycle events and such like are all perfectly legal. I wouldn't class myself as a naturist but I am often surpri…

> I believe basically means someone has to be offended by your nakedness. Which means nude beaches, organised naked cycle events and such like are all perfectly legal.

Fortunately we're all incredibly good at being offended by anything and everything - so I'd argue you've got sod all chance of avoiding it at this point unless in an area explicitly defined as "nudist"

Re: Japan's 'Naked Hermit' Pried from Island Utopia After 29 Years

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Post by Rainymood »

danieka wrote: post #13

I find this really depressing, that he is forced to abandon a lifestyle that he himself choose. I can't help but think of Ted Kaczynski who wrote along the lines that we are cogs in the social machine deprived of dignity and autonomy. The industrial society and its future: http://editions-hache.com/essais/pdf/kaczynski2.pdf

The Netflix "documentary" (Manhunt: Unabomber) is a great watch. While it's a bit dramatised it's still a good (and short 9eps) watch.

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Post by Krasnol »

Rainymood wrote: post #42
danieka wrote: post #13

I find this really depressing, that he is forced to abandon a lifestyle that he himself choose. I can't help but think of Ted Kaczynski who wrote along the lines that we are cogs in the social machine deprived of dignity and autonomy. The industrial society and its future: http://editions-hache.com/essais/pdf/kaczynski2.pdf

The Netflix "documentary" (Manhunt: Unabomber) is a great watch. While it's a bit dramatised it's still a good (and short 9eps) watch.

Try this ARTE documentary "The Net": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIfc5KpomGQ

It goes deeper, features Kaczynski, some Silicone Valley elites and Heinz von Foerster.

Re: Japan's 'Naked Hermit' Pried from Island Utopia After 29 Years

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Post by DavidNielsen »

gaius wrote: post #32
Angostura wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

See also, "the tallest poppy"

See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Jante

People cite Law of Jante to be anti exceptionalism when in reality it is meant and generally used as a means of reminding high and low alike that we are in this together.

We are different, but do not think that your view point on our difference makes you inherently better than me.

We are both human, we both share this place called Earth, could we be productive and not turn life into a weirdly specific genitalia measurement contest.. por favor?

You are allowed and encouraged to be exceptional, just like everybody else. You should just recognize how you got there and how other people got where they are. In essence, Jante, is a teaching tool regarding inequality.

Denmark is a lovely place, in part, because of a general adherence to following those guidelines. Therefore as a Dane it pains me to see it cited as a bad thing and as justification for actions and behaviors Law of Jante which are in direct opposition to how it is de facto taught and applied in Danish society.

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Post by Timpy »

Imagine feeling completely one with nature, making your position clear that this is where and how you would like to die. The time comes for you to wrestle with your mortality, you've worked for 30 years to do it with dignity. You've rejected man's system, because you know it's not right for you, and in your final moments it comes for you, steals you away, and forces you back into the machine. This isn't a morally imperative prevention of suicide. Mr. Nagasaki should be left alone.

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Post by zawerf »

The items he's using in that video don't look like they are 3 decades old.

Searching a bit, I found a wiki with more info about him: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sotobanari

> Sotobanari had one human inhabitant, a eighty-two-year-old man named Masafumi Nagasaki, who had lived there in semi-isolation for three decades (1989 - 2018), nude, and bought food and water from a settlement an hour away by boat weekly with ¥10,000 sent by family, fully clothed.

Vice video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBtBePnUOZU

Re: Japan's 'Naked Hermit' Pried from Island Utopia After 29 Years

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Post by doall »

In an Japanese article the guy says that he was kicked out of Sotobanari island after becoming famous for showing up in a Japanese TV show; many tourists came to the island, the relatives of the owner of the property wanted to do some farming in the property, and some people were concerned that some other street people will do the same thing like him.

For these reasons he was asked to leave the island. If you want to read in more detail below is the article in Japanese.

https://www.dailyshincho.jp/article/2015/12090710/?all=1

Re: Japan's 'Naked Hermit' Pried from Island Utopia After 29 Years

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Timpy wrote: post #45

Imagine feeling completely one with nature, making your position clear that this is where and how you would like to die. The time comes for you to wrestle with your mortality, you've worked for 30 years to do it with dignity. You've rejected man's system, because you know it's not right for you, and in your final moments it comes for you, steals you away, and forces you back into the machine. This isn't a morally imp…

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Re: Japan's 'Naked Hermit' Pried from Island Utopia After 29 Years

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Post by justaguyhere »

There was another story few months ago - someone had made a Instagram account for a beautiful tree, it became famous and one day it was cut down.

Moral of the story - if we find someone unique and if that someone wants to be left alone, then we should just respect their wishes and not publicize.

I dread the day when someone finds and publishes the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto for you know, a "good story". I hope it doesn't happen

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