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Re: Launch HN: The Lobby (YC W18) – 1-on-1 calls with company insiders to get hired

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post #149

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> Usually, "shut down" implies that the company failed. Of course it failed, from the standpoint of the VCs, at least. It just didn't run out of cash. That doesn't say anything one way or the other about the business model of taking a percentage of salary, which is what is under discussion. > It says right in the article that WeWork offered the founder $5M in comp Again, not particularly relevant, other than an indic…

I misread your comment, I didn't understand you were asking how the exit is relevant to the business model, and you're right, it's not. the primary principle at play is making money, on all sides Well the thing is that, when pitching or promoting their companies, and especially when rallying employees, startup founders pay a lot of lip service to other things like "the vision," "the mission," and "changing the world.…

> when pitching or promoting their companies

...and the whole point of pitching or promoting a company is...making money!

> "changing the world."

That isn't falsified by putting 5 million dollars in exchange for dropping a VC-funded startup. It may well be easier to change the world with that kind of money absent the attached strings.

> They don't say "by the way guys I'll happily disband this whole thing the instant someone offers me a wad of cash."

Well, a big enough wad of cash. They don't have to. This is one of those "well duh" situations.

This is actually a business risk, that one or more of your key/critical employees will get lured by an offer they can't refuse. (As I keep trying to keep this on-topic) This is particlarly so for founders with unproven business models, who VCs might otherwise pressure into much less attractive equity/control positions.

> fully trumps every other principle one holds

This is a strawman. You've implied violation of principles you hold (without stating them outright) but haven't demostrated violation of any of that founder's principles. I've pointed out at least one that we can presume that was upheld, in the return of assets.

Re: Launch HN: The Lobby (YC W18) – 1-on-1 calls with company insiders to get hired

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It’s going to be tough for your consultants to stay truly anonymous. Presumably you’ll be issuing them 1099s, they may need to adjust withholding, they’ll have decide whether or not to incorporate in order to limit their liability, and so on. Nor am I so sure this would be completely legal. It might run afoul of the honest services statute even as narrowed by SCOTUS.

Again here would suggest you check out GLG, Alphasights and other expert networks. They deal with much more sensitive info than "interview prep,"and much larger dollar figures; they do this with 1099's and have no issues for their supply side (which are employees or former employees at highly regulated institutions). You are not required by law to report 1099's to your employer from what I understand - but we still e…

I'm not quite sure if this is a communication due to my recent 1099 status contractor employment with Lionbridge and just wanted to make sure that I hadn't missed anything that I needed to submit. Thank you, Sarah

Re: Launch HN: The Lobby (YC W18) – 1-on-1 calls with company insiders to get hired

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I agree that if not controlled properly - it can take all sorts of shapes and forms. The best we can do is work with good intentions, put measures in place to avoid bad behavior, and focus on driving more of the positive kinds of interactions. I think our model is worth trying because the alternative is the status quo, where the only ones with access to this information are family members, top school alums, or people…

if it doesn't add value to the company and make it better, kind of the same as putting the company office supplies on Ebay. absorbing team members' time monetizing company resources.

to re-phrase, if it's not something an HR department would want to encourage people to do, like being on LinkedIn and sharing opportunities and referrals, it's essentially parasitic.

Re: Launch HN: The Lobby (YC W18) – 1-on-1 calls with company insiders to get hired

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[Slightly off-topic] There are a lot of people here talking about how it is impossible to find a job at one of the top investment banks without any connections. Why do you need to have connections to land a job? Why aren't the best candidates filtered from the job application pipeline like it happens at all of the big tech companies? By requiring connections to get in, Investment Bankers are biasing their employee to…

> “how hard it is to find jobs without connections”

To developers — here’s a connection.

I’m hiring 50+ startup-style engineers (mix of pure software, DevSecOps, and SRE) with 80th percentile abilities and current skills — no finance background necessary — right now in New York City.

Send me a resume and a GitHub link.

Notes:

1. You shouldn’t need insider info to get hired. Interviews should be collaborative, not gotcha. Both sides of table want to discover if this is the right thing, you only get there through directness, openness, truth. We bias to full disclosure to combat the usual information asymmetry between the big corporation and the single individual. The job matters to you a lot, “big co doesn’t care”. So we try to tilt in your favor.

2. Insider info — if you can think of a security (such as prevent, detect, automation, or operation) capability that AWS, Azure, GCP, or Kubernetes is missing, and describe to my head of security engineering how you would design and implement it, you’ll be on the top of the stack.

To “The Lobby” —

Consider the edge case where the company wants the candidate to know everything they need to know. If your model supports paying insiders, consider offering to donate to a non-profit such as the EFF instead.

Re: Launch HN: The Lobby (YC W18) – 1-on-1 calls with company insiders to get hired

#165
post #100

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If you read the privacy policy you'll realise you're still the product: "The Lobby may create co-branded webpages with our third-party partners or contractors and in connection with these relationships we may pass your personal information to these partners in order to offer these co-branded Services."

Like 99% of startups, we didn't write up each section of our privacy policy in an effort to be evil. We worked with templates and modified the parts that seemed more specific to us. Please don't villanize us for the wording here - it probably came recycled from others. We would never share important data without user's consent, and in the case of recruiting, they're usually joining because they want us to share certa…

You have to take responsibility for your privacy policy though, and make sure it reflects your actual policy.

Re: Launch HN: The Lobby (YC W18) – 1-on-1 calls with company insiders to get hired

#166
Hi Deepak,

I met you at TreeHacks this year, where I was critical of your product. I saw your post looking for a CTO and I feel compelled to warn you against pursuing this idea, again. The lobby is a bad idea because:

1. The careers space is crowded

2. Your customers are not earning money and have a multitude of free alternatives

3. Your product is extremely expensive

4. Your product is a liability for the supply side (it is a risk for employees to advise outsiders about careers at their company)

5. You overvalue the time of the customer and undervalue the time of your business side users. Being the middleman in a low-volume business like this makes no sense.

You seem like a nice guy and I don't want to see you fail. This is a terrible idea. You don't have product market fit and your CTO is going to quickly burn through your capital. The people here seem optimistic but do you really think you're going to make your million off of these interviews? I advise you to pivot/restart as best you can.

If you still believe in the lobby, just put a phone number on the website and handle everything yourself until you're up to your eyeballs in customers.

Best of luck.

Re: Launch HN: The Lobby (YC W18) – 1-on-1 calls with company insiders to get hired

#167

Hi Deepak, I met you at TreeHacks this year, where I was critical of your product. I saw your post looking for a CTO and I feel compelled to warn you against pursuing this idea, again. The lobby is a bad idea because: 1. The careers space is crowded 2. Your customers are not earning money and have a multitude of free alternatives 3. Your product is extremely expensive 4. Your product is a liability for the supply sid…

Hello! Thanks for the candid feedback. Only time will tell :). best of luck
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