Is this even up for discussion? Whatever you think of him, Milo Yiannopoulos got banned because HIS FOLLOWERS made derogatory statements about an actress.
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#262I talked to an ex-twitter employee I met in Ireland at bar. He told me very candidly that twitter employees loathed Milo Yiannopolous and were actively trying to figure out any way to ban him. Not a fan of Milo, but there are clearly agendas which can't be extricated from politics.
I imagine a good part of that is because he led a brigade of followers that would go out and harass other users.
Can you clarify how he "led a brigade." Point me to an example where he encouraged his followers to say derogatory things?
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#263Earlier quoted context omitted.
I imagine a good part of that is because he led a brigade of followers that would go out and harass other users.
if that's true, that rule should be applied to everyone, not only milo. there are more right and left-wing fringe users that love to brigade other users.
Perhaps I'm playing devils advocate by saying this, but: Isn't Milo one of the most well known cases of this? e.g. "Dealing" with him would help the twitter brand the most visibly.
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#264Earlier quoted context omitted.
It seems to me that there’s some middle area where the person doesn’t understand Bay Area culture but they’re not being rude or hot headed, and yet their genuine questions get downvoted. I do think there’s some kind of “you can’t discuss that” attitudes on here about certain topics. Diversity stuff is an area I can imagine reasonable and even good comments getting downvoted. Sadly I don’t have any sources, but this i…
> middle area where the person doesn’t understand Bay Area culture... > genuine questions get downvoted The problem is these "genuine questions," for other people, are received as: bad faith questions, "sea lioning", poorly researched questions (e.g., simple query would find the answer), microagressions, dog whistles, sock puppet arguments, or other incendiary social media argument techniques. Whether every instance…
What I'm most excited about with Kennedy's replacement is seeing affirmative action finally get the axe. Many, many people think that the erosion of meritocracy is a bad thing even for the groups it's intended to benefit.
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#265This article seems to be a smoking gun... https://medium.com/@garycoby/twitter-restricts-trump-eb7e48c... Note that there are plenty of other custom icons that Twitter allows.
Are there examples of Democrat-funded attack ads like this with hashtags that Twitter allowed icons for? EDIT: I ask because this is an example of an attack ad targeted to an individual candidate rather than a general promotion or political concept, which I can see why Twitter wouldn't necessarily want to promote.
The issue is more it being approved at lower levels, but CEO Jack Dorsey directly killing it: an example of bias at the very top.
Any ad that directly mentions the opposing candidate, no matter how polite, is an attack ad. And there is no guidance from ANY regulatory authority that I can see, that bans, discourages, or even regulates them.
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#266And it's true. Case in point: the gun emoticon.
By the way, it's stupid that we still can't have user-defined emoticons. We could have enriched our online culture with a flourishing set of shared emoticons by now!
My discord feed is infinitely better as a result of custom emotes. Reactions to memes are much more often on point with what I wanted to communicate.
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#267I talked to an ex-twitter employee I met in Ireland at bar. He told me very candidly that twitter employees loathed Milo Yiannopolous and were actively trying to figure out any way to ban him. Not a fan of Milo, but there are clearly agendas which can't be extricated from politics.
I imagine a good part of that is because he led a brigade of followers that would go out and harass other users.
I was watching his feed in real time the night he was banned. He wasn't directing people to do anything. He was trashing the Ghostbusters movie and called one of the female actresses a "black dude". It may have been tasteless but it wasn't brigading.
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> the person doesn’t understand Bay Area culture It's a common misconception, but HN users are overwhelmingly not in the Bay Area. When I looked at this a few months ago, the number was about 10%. (Actually between 5% and 14% depending on how you count.)
What about if you weight by activity? Does that significantly affect the percentage?
It does somewhat, hence the range I mentioned. For posting submissions and comments it was 10.9%.
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if that's true, that rule should be applied to everyone, not only milo. there are more right and left-wing fringe users that love to brigade other users.
Perhaps I'm playing devils advocate by saying this, but: Isn't Milo one of the most well known cases of this? e.g. "Dealing" with him would help the twitter brand the most visibly.
I'm not sure the average Twitter user wants Twitter to "deal" with him like they're Vito Corleone.
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It's entirely possible that Facebook found that your comments caused less engagement for other people on Facebook, and therefore doesn't want you to comment. It's also possible that Facebook determined that this person has substantially different politics than you, and has put you in different 'boxes'. You can actually check what groups Facebook thinks you belong in. For instance, Facebook thinks my peer group is 'St…
that concept of 'boxes' is pretty interesting -- is there a way for me to check that for myself without handing them a wad of cash? i rarely use facebook aside from messenger (because getting friends and family to use something like telegram/signal/etc is a pain in the ass when fb just works) but i've had it for about 8 years now so it'd be interesting to see how accurate of a profile they've built on me
http://facebook.com/ads/preferences/behaviors
Apparently I'm 'very conservative'... probably because of my friend group, since I've never posted anything political on Facebook.