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Re: Most Americans Think Facebook and Twitter Censor Their Political Views

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> I think the biggest contributor is just that left-leaning people are more likely to be offended by right-leaning views. More likely to have empathy is another way to phrase that.

You can be super emphatic an right wing, how do you think someone becomes a populist nationalist. Besides from a European perspective even someone like Obama or even more obviously Hillary (based on the amount of war mongering she has done alone) is center or ultra right.

> You can be super emphatic an right wing, how do you think someone becomes a populist nationalist.

At the bottom? Fear of the other; in the United States, fear of the other rooted particularly in racism. Because it's not "nationalism" here--a disease by itself, but a controllable one. It's white supremacism, given nicer clothes by calling it "white nationalism" for some godforsaken reason, peddled by leaders who want the bottom to vote their way. It's not like it's news. Lee Atwater pegged this whole disgraceful thing decades ago. To legitimize and get boots on the ground for economically regressive policies, the right wing of the United States leveraged this racially-motivated insecurity; now the racist tiger has eaten them and they are so very surprised that the racist tiger was racist all along.

At the top? They're the ones doing the peddling. Some is surely true-believer racism. Some is also surely cynicism--because the bottom will eat it up and there's your leash to drag them where you want. It isn't exactly complex.

(And, no, Obama and Clinton are not "ultra right" from a European perspective; that's the sort of mendacious both-sidesing I expect out of actually far right speakers, though. Obama and Clinton would be generically center- to center-right politicians on a Europe-calibrated axis. The modern Republican Party is more like Ukip.)

Re: Most Americans Think Facebook and Twitter Censor Their Political Views

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And it's true. Case in point: the gun emoticon.

By the way, it's stupid that we still can't have user-defined emoticons. We could have enriched our online culture with a flourishing set of shared emoticons by now!

> By the way, it's stupid that we still can't have user-defined [emojis].

Emojis should have only been embedded user-defined pngs. I know I'm being cranky and old, but I feel our character sets shouldn't have been used to encode novel cute pictures.

Re: Most Americans Think Facebook and Twitter Censor Their Political Views

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> it's pretty common for conservatives to encounter ... censorship from other users of social media sites How, exactly? Is Facebook doling out admin privileges to random users? Or are we confusing "receive criticism" with "censorship" here?

It may well be the case that one of the biggest practical problems with US politics is that large numbers of conservatives simply do not understand what censorship and robust debate look like, and think that deep disagreement from other people like themselves means their rights are being violated.

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Re: Most Americans Think Facebook and Twitter Censor Their Political Views

#94

I can fully believe that. Try for instance to have a discussion here on hacker news about the less fortunate sides of diversity initiatives. Then see how many minutes it takes before your entire thread is flagged and effectively censored.

Surprised this thread hasn’t been flagged yet.

Re: Most Americans Think Facebook and Twitter Censor Their Political Views

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Downvotes aren't 'censorship'.

In and of themselves, no. However, I think an argument could be made for the visual suppression of posts, which occurs after too many downvotes have been given, being a form of soft censorship. The information is still broadcast but it's made impossible to read unless I copy/paste it or tilt my screen to an extreme angle.

Or you can just click on the comment timestamp. If downvotes are 'censorship', so are upvotes.

Re: Most Americans Think Facebook and Twitter Censor Their Political Views

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I lean conservative, but to be honest, I assign only a small portion of the blame to social media giants. Their office areas and leadership certainly lean left-wing, but I don't think that's the main issue. I think the biggest contributor is just that left-leaning people are more likely to be offended by right-leaning views. As a result, even an entirely neutral algorithm focused on retention / user satisfaction will…

> I think the biggest contributor is just that left-leaning people are more likely to be offended by right-leaning views. More likely to have empathy is another way to phrase that.

The data backs you up on that, with Democrats ranking empathy much higher when making arguments.

That fact almost proves the point OP was making though, when your argument is emotion based offense at hostile views comes naturally.

Re: Most Americans Think Facebook and Twitter Censor Their Political Views

#97
This isn't opinion, it's provable fact. Twitter and Facebook were on a tear last year, actively shutting down the accounts of conservative pundits, under the guise of rules violations, while turning a blind eye to the same actions from pundits and personalities on the left.

Re: Most Americans Think Facebook and Twitter Censor Their Political Views

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I can fully believe that. Try for instance to have a discussion here on hacker news about the less fortunate sides of diversity initiatives. Then see how many minutes it takes before your entire thread is flagged and effectively censored.

HN is a social media giant?

It’s social media if nothing else.

Doesn’t have to be a giant to exhibit the behaviors people find objectionable, like applying selective censorship.

Re: Most Americans Think Facebook and Twitter Censor Their Political Views

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When a friend posts on Facebook and it doesn't show up in my feed that's FB making a call as to what to show me. Why? Because algorithms. Maybe "censorship" is a strong word in this instance — do we prefer "selective disclosure"? Regardless, not what I signed up for. Deleted FB.

Censorship isnot too strong. It's exactly what's happening.

Re: Most Americans Think Facebook and Twitter Censor Their Political Views

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This article seems to be a smoking gun... https://medium.com/@garycoby/twitter-restricts-trump-eb7e48c... Note that there are plenty of other custom icons that Twitter allows.

Are there examples of Democrat-funded attack ads like this with hashtags that Twitter allowed icons for? EDIT: I ask because this is an example of an attack ad targeted to an individual candidate rather than a general promotion or political concept, which I can see why Twitter wouldn't necessarily want to promote.

There is one from Hillary's campaign showed as a picture in the article.
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