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Google Engineers Refused to Build Security Tool to Win Military Contracts

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Re: Google Engineers Refused to Build Security Tool to Win Military Contracts

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That may be your opinion but I can assure you it is not accurate. Your hysteria is clouding your judgement.

It's not accurate that the military has a terrible track record regarding civilian casualties? Go ahead and offer your proof to the contrary, then.

It's not accurate that the military doesn't care. You are foolish.

Re: Google Engineers Refused to Build Security Tool to Win Military Contracts

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Interesting when a multi-national company says things like "We are still doing everything we can within these guidelines to support our government, the military and our veterans," It may be the government of the company, but it ain't the government of a significant chunk of employess at Google, wonder how they feel about statementsl like this.

What do you mean like it or not (and I don't) the current president was elected so it is their government. I doubt many expat H1B's from the subcontinent will have any qualms about military work.

I know at least one Iranian Google employee (Not in a US office).

I haven't asked because it seems insensitive but given that their country could be on the receiving end of this technology I wonder what they think about Google's military tech and this statement.

Re: Google Engineers Refused to Build Security Tool to Win Military Contracts

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You’re missing the point - which is that Google does business and has offices in many countries that are not America.

And that makes what difference? those offices are just their to support the main business or for tax reasons. Google wouldn't have all those people in Eire unless it was for tax and access to a cheap English speaking labour force. And if google local offices started to diverge from the US norm they would quickly have there senior mangers replaced - for example if a local google office faced a recognition ballot from…

It's "Ireland" not "Eire"

Re: Google Engineers Refused to Build Security Tool to Win Military Contracts

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I have pretty strong opinions that never get to the top, such as "Apple tech is mostly gimmicky, trendy garbage whereas Microsoft tech is mostly the best mix of freedom, flexibility and quality". Probably even just using that as my example here will harm me! There are definite, identifiable leanings from the denizens here on HN.

Yes, but that's a poor example since the reverse would get downvoted as well. If you want to be the top comment, your dismissal needs to be more middlebrow and noncommittal.

Incorrect. Here's proof - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17414081

Their comment: Windows is terrible. (No downvotes.)

My comment: Windows is the best. (-4 downvotes.)

Re: Google Engineers Refused to Build Security Tool to Win Military Contracts

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Software engineers in the valley seem disconnected from reality. Maybe they believe politically correct fairies drop from the heavens and secure the US, it's borders and interests. Or maybe the Taliban and ISIS don't deserve drone attacks. Whatever their delusion, it's for the good. Military and defense funding yielded everything from the transistor to the internet. Let the next wave of innovation happen outside the…

Hey what's your name? I keep a blacklist of patriotic amurrikkkans like yourself so I can make sure that if your resume comes across my desk, I'll get to mock you on Instagram before round-filing your application.

I doubt you'd have the time, what with all the fellating you provide ISIS.

Re: Google Engineers Refused to Build Security Tool to Win Military Contracts

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Temet nosce. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_thyself

Interestingly enough, "know thyself" in the original context actually means something like "know your place".

Yes, it seems that the earliest (Egyptian) references make it out as "know your place", and that even the earliest Greek references put a slightly nicer but still comparable "be moderate, self-restrained".

But there are several references by Plato that are relevant to the interpretation that I implied (to know yourself = to know your moral standpoint) mentioned in the Wikipedia article:

(Plato's Phaedrus dialogue) Socrates says, "But I have no leisure for them at all; and the reason, my friend, is this: I am not yet able, as the Delphic inscription has it, to know myself; so it seems to me ridiculous, when I do not yet know that, to investigate irrelevant things."

(Plato's Protagoras dialogue) Socrates mentions "the far-famed inscriptions, which are in all men's mouths,--'Know thyself,' and 'Nothing too much'.". Having lauded the maxims, Socrates then spends a great deal of time getting to the bottom of what one of them means, the saying of Pittacus, 'Hard is it to be good.' The irony here is that although the sayings of Delphi bear 'great force,' it is not clear how to live life in accordance with their meanings. Although, the concise and broad nature of the sayings suggests the active partaking in the usage and personal discovery of each maxim; as if the intended nature of the saying lay not in the words but the self-reflection and self-referencing of the person thereof.

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