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I Don’t Believe in Full-Stack Engineering

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Re: I Don’t Believe in Full-Stack Engineering

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Post by ricardobeat »

redleggedfrog wrote: post #49

"Front-end development is important today and it will be important in twenty years’ time, it’s not going away anytime soon." That I don't think will be true unless it's pertaining the eventual abandonment of the web browser as the run-time. The awful tangled spaghetti that is the current code for a web site UI is not tractable going forward. It takes way too much effort to make a usable interface for the value in ret…

What UI system is better than web right now? How will web assembly help?

Re: I Don’t Believe in Full-Stack Engineering

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Post by nightski »

He attributes bad web sites to lack of skills. I'm sorry, but in my experience it generally is due to lack of time and budget, no matter how experienced you are. Experience helps a lot but not every site is worth pouring in the money required to make it top notch. Some times meeting business needs matters more than technical perfection.

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Post by inestyne »

Full stack to me is more about ownership and responsibility than pure expertise. He's the guy that can literally carry the entire thing on his back if he has to. Technically speaking, usually because he's the one that created it, by himself, made it work, made it scale, and made it make money without any help. In my case he becomes the guy in charge trying to figure out how to hire people to just little parts of his job. And finding out he now has to learn how to hire people, just like everything else...

:)

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Post by bradleyjg »

In my experience companies looking for full stack engineers want a fully competent front end engineer that’s willing to get his hands dirty with a CRUD backend. Specifically not someone that’s mediocre at everything, and at least for reasonable hiring managers, not someone that’s an expert at everything.

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Post by tdurden »

The author seems to think "full-stack" means the developer is an expert in everything; that is hardly the case.

I would consider a full stack developer to be someone who likely has one or more areas of expertise, but is able to quickly move out of their comfort zone(s) and contribute in a meaningful way towards any part of the stack.

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Post by etaioinshrdlu »

redleggedfrog wrote: post #49

"Front-end development is important today and it will be important in twenty years’ time, it’s not going away anytime soon." That I don't think will be true unless it's pertaining the eventual abandonment of the web browser as the run-time. The awful tangled spaghetti that is the current code for a web site UI is not tractable going forward. It takes way too much effort to make a usable interface for the value in ret…

Haha. No. The tangled spaghetti mess will only get worse. We are only going to add more layers. People are not going to be sane :)

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Post by mmt »

nickpeterson wrote: post #60
vbezhenar wrote: post #35

I'm the only competent developer in our company. So believe it or not, but I'm doing it all, from tinkering in disassembled Oracle 9i JDBC driver, to planning Oracle migration to writing SQL queries, reverse-engineering stored procedures, modifying Delphi sources, writing Java code, writing Kotlin code, writing HTML, JavaScript, CSS, Objective C, rolling out some tiny PHP website, writing brute-forcer to crack P12 pr…

I'm sure your reasons are valid, but I laughed a bit when I read that you use Oracle and don't have the budget for more people.

> I laughed a bit when I read that you use Oracle and don't have the budget for more people.

Why? Because you believe the former causes the latter?

There are many valid criticisms to be levied against Oracle the company, enteprise software in general, and especially its pricing.

However, it's important to remember that, for many businesses, it's either impractical or downright impossible to hire enough engineers to make up for to lost features of replacing Oracle with even somethig as relatively feature-dense as PostgreSQL.

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Post by fouc »

vbezhenar wrote: post #35

I'm the only competent developer in our company. So believe it or not, but I'm doing it all, from tinkering in disassembled Oracle 9i JDBC driver, to planning Oracle migration to writing SQL queries, reverse-engineering stored procedures, modifying Delphi sources, writing Java code, writing Kotlin code, writing HTML, JavaScript, CSS, Objective C, rolling out some tiny PHP website, writing brute-forcer to crack P12 pr…

How many developers are there at your company?

Re: I Don’t Believe in Full-Stack Engineering

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Post by mavelikara »

andrewingram wrote: post #66

Hmm. Maybe full-stack engineering doesn't need you to believe in it? Though to be fair it probably does, because having your entire professional community believe you don't exist creates ridiculous amounts of frustration, anxiety and imposter syndrome. I do (with skill levels ranging from competent to highly regarded): * UI design * Data architecture * API design * HTML/CSS/JS/React/GraphQL/etc * Front-end accessibil…

FWIW, your listed skill sets look very front-end heavy to me.
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