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Re: Ask HN: Anyone else using Hacker News as a `dopamine hit`?

#21

No. That's not how human behavior works. The " dopamine-fix/pleasure-addiction " concept is deeply flawed, and serves only as Pop Culture's mental crutch, occupying place where an explanation for a deeper problem belongs. It's hand-wavey, unverifiable magic that fits in broadly with anyone's self image, without contaminating the circumstances by laying blame or guilt at the feet of the individual. The truth is that m…

I love how you write. I would read a book or blog if you wrote it. You bring up some very interesting concepts.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else using Hacker News as a `dopamine hit`?

#24
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Diversity. Local news. Non-tech news.

> Diversity. Local news. Non-tech news. Still just listing things not benefits. Why do people who aren't interested in non-tech news "need" to seek it out?

To develop/maintain a healthy dose of perspective.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else using Hacker News as a `dopamine hit`?

#26

No. That's not how human behavior works. The " dopamine-fix/pleasure-addiction " concept is deeply flawed, and serves only as Pop Culture's mental crutch, occupying place where an explanation for a deeper problem belongs. It's hand-wavey, unverifiable magic that fits in broadly with anyone's self image, without contaminating the circumstances by laying blame or guilt at the feet of the individual. The truth is that m…

Bravo. I second the first reply. I reread this a few times just to make sure I got it all. Are you an author?

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else using Hacker News as a `dopamine hit`?

#27

No. That's not how human behavior works. The " dopamine-fix/pleasure-addiction " concept is deeply flawed, and serves only as Pop Culture's mental crutch, occupying place where an explanation for a deeper problem belongs. It's hand-wavey, unverifiable magic that fits in broadly with anyone's self image, without contaminating the circumstances by laying blame or guilt at the feet of the individual. The truth is that m…

I am sorry, but I beg to differ. This concept is built onto basic insights into how the human reward system works, why else would Design (cf. Tristan Harris tristanharris.com/essays or Chamath Palihapitiya https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMotykw0SIk&t=1220) and Advertisement use this to try to shape peoples desires (and in turn consumer choices)?

What you are drawing is in my opinion a false equivalency. It is not at all the same doing things in real life like reading a book, mowing the lawn or knitting a sweater and skimming a news feed or interacting with social media. The main reason for that imo is the amount of effort you have to put in to get a reward. When you take the offline work you (in the case of a book) at least have to go to the bookshelf, pick a book, take it in your hand and whilst reading have the rough content of the previous pages in your head or (in the case of mowing the lawn) actually physically move. This delays the gratification you get when having finished reading the book or mowing the lawn.

With social media or quickly skimming articles from a news feed the delay you get on your gratification when scrolling through is literally given by the speed with which you can scroll and read. This makes dopamine so cheap for your brain, that it will of course reward you when you engage in these activities. (Incidentally it also makes it more susceptible to future easy dopamine hits (too lazy to find online sources, will look a little later. Joachim Bauer: Selbststeuerung is a very good book on this)).

And no, it is nihilistic to think that 99% of what we are allowed to do is pointless. Having these discussion for example is a great source of meaning. Really: educating yourself, talking to other people and forming opinions on different topics is also very meaningful as it will influence your perspective on the world in a lot of (sometimes even positive ;) ) ways.

I must admit, that I don't quite get your point on the disassembly of fundamental aspects of human civilization (although it sounds very good :D). To me the equivalency would be a bicycle becoming an ebike, which drives nearly effortlessly. The difference between today and before is that before you had enough time to think where you want to go while riding the bike (as it was tedious and slow to ride) and today the bike is going so fast that some people just ride it for the rush of speed and don't actually know where they want to go.

So the lesson to me is: Get off the bike. Sit down, enjoy the view and figure out where you want to go first and then drive the hell out of it in that direction.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else using Hacker News as a `dopamine hit`?

#28

I think I've figured this out. I basically have two modes, hunt and eat. When I'm at my computer, I pull in the list of HN titles via RSS. I go through the list (just titles, no upvote numbers, rankings, or other brain hackery) and select the ones I'm actually interested in. I pop those open as tabs. Once I have the articles I want, I quickly go through them in a sorting cycle. Weird games or apps I might take a quic…

What are you using to convert articles to audio? Is that a feature of the pocket app?

Yes. Pocket does that. I used to do the same, but recently I have been using OneTab - another chrome extension. I can always open it later when I want to read them. Give it a try :)

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else using Hacker News as a `dopamine hit`?

#29
You are drinking from the water hose. Do this long enough and your ability to concentrate will atrophy, it is a muscle that needs regular exercise. The first step is to understand what you are doing to your brain.

Try this: instead of merely skimming articles, make it mandatory to summarize everything you read in a few sentences. You'll very soon figure out that most what you read does not really interest you. Understanding requires work and deeper motivation to do so.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else using Hacker News as a `dopamine hit`?

#30
When reading a lot of those articles and papers you learn how to skim faster and more precise. For example the authors message is often found in the end. You learn when passages of text start where a lot of fancy words are used to tell a story and vivid images, these can be skipped through faster when looking for concepts and ideas. But can be important to put together the collected pieces (concepts,ideas) and give it a context.

I sometimes think a kind of text structure "syntax highlighter" would be interesting to learn to spot the structure.

The comments on-page and on hackernews are also part of the article for me and often the most interesting things can be found there.

When you learn something new your brain tries to connect it to your world view/model, like a puzzle piece. Over time you put more and more pieces you have more and more docking points and so it gets easier with time to take in something new. Because you can easier relate it something you already know.

But so does increase the things you could learn, yet you only have limited time. Yea that is kinda annoying, I also wish I would have the time to learn and master it all. But there is only so much time and an infinite sea of things to explore..

But hey, it is fun while it lasts so why worry? Just continue with the quest for knowledge and understanding and have fun while doing it!

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