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The Surface Book 2 is everything the MacBook Pro should be

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Re: The Surface Book 2 is everything the MacBook Pro should be

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Post by s73v3r_ »

benologist wrote: post #108

I think Apple should open source macOS so it can be decoupled from their hardware, or just start cloning it in open source against their wishes as was done to Windows. Otherwise it's time we let macOS go because Apple plans for it to run iOS apps and to use their iOS processors in their computers, so we and our tools and software are approaching obsolete and when iOS devices can compile apps we will start being redun…

"I think Apple should open source macOS so it can be decoupled from their hardware, or just start cloning it in open source against their wishes as was done to Windows."

Why on earth would Apple want to remove one of their biggest competitive advantages?

"Otherwise it's time we let macOS go because Apple plans for it to run iOS apps and to use their iOS processors in their computers, so we and our tools and software are approaching obsolete and when iOS devices can compile apps we will start being redundant too."

Citation Needed. They have a toolkit that will allow iOS apps to be recompiled to macOS apps. That's about it.

"Even if they released new hardware for us tomorrow it would be coupled with iOS processors and how many generations of having both processors can we really expect?"

What the hell is an "iOS processor"?

Re: The Surface Book 2 is everything the MacBook Pro should be

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Post by s73v3r_ »

partiallypro wrote: post #185
cncrnd wrote: post #175

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Good for you. However, consumer reports gave a two-year breakage rate of 25% for Surface products. Given a 75% everything-is-ok rate, that gives you around a reasonable 25% chance (.75^5) that everything is ok with 5 devices, illustrating why anecdotes are not helpful in decision making.

Consumer Reports also didn't use actual return/replacement rates with Surface devices, and included in their breakage rate things that are easily attributable to a Windows Update.

I would too, as Microsoft is the one running Windows Update.

Re: The Surface Book 2 is everything the MacBook Pro should be

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Post by s73v3r_ »

jdietrich wrote: post #11
rbanffy wrote: post #2

Unfortunately, it comes installed with Windows. edit: of course it runs Windows. It also comes pre-installed with it.

FTA: Most people that I showed the Surface to were impressed by what they saw, but almost always came back to the same thing: it doesn’t run macOS. I’m increasingly frustrated by this because it’s almost always a misunderstanding of how far Windows 10 has come, and how compatible the workflow now is regardless of what you might do for a job. I suspect most people haven't touched Windows since years ago and it's time…

Honestly, it sounds like someone who's surly that other people don't like the same thing as them.

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Post by makecheck »

art0rz wrote: post #276
e40 wrote: post #262

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Yeah, I saw a dude in the elevator (this year) because his Windows 10 started installing updates when he shut it down, but he needed to leave the office. I get so much crap when I say this online, but Windows is a complete shit show. Yeah, there are issues with macOS, but it is lightyears better. Yeah, I know Apple has dropped the ball on hardware, but my 5 year old MBP is just fine.

I've shutdown my laptop/closed the lid loads of times during updates, Windows manages just fine. It rolls back the update if needed and tries again upon boot.

In a way it doesn’t matter if the OS can recover because people don’t think it will, and it also says “do not turn off your computer”. It’s not at all hard to imagine people feeling glued to their desks or afraid to take the machine away with that information.

If the OS can recover, it should just say “you may still shut down at any time but the update will start from the beginning if you do”.

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BinaryIdiot wrote: post #140
Casseres wrote: post #113

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The first thing I always do on a new laptop (or install) is go into Power Settings and change the Closing Lid action from putting the computer to sleep to just turning off the screen. It's surprising how many people never change the settings on their computers. Whenever I saw someone with the taskbar icons combined, I always asked them if they liked it that way, and they would say "No." So I always offered and they a…

> The first thing I always do on a new laptop (or install) is go into Power Settings and change the Closing Lid action from putting the computer to sleep to just turning off the screen. Yikes! Why? I haven't had an issue with a laptop properly going to sleep and coming back in many years. This was something I used to do back in 2008 but it's hard to imagine today.

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diroussel wrote: post #236
ams6110 wrote: post #167

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Probably don't want to lose their ssh connections.

Back in 2004 I had an ssh terminal open from my Mac (12" PowerBook) to my home Linux server. I closed the lid and took the laptop away with for a trip. For some reason I didn't use the laptop during the week. When I got back home 6 days later I opened the laptop and saw the ssh session. I tried it out and it still worked! I was amazed! The ssh client had no keep alive. And the sshd had no keep alive. There was not fi…

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Re: The Surface Book 2 is everything the MacBook Pro should be

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Post by NetOpWibby »

AgentOrange1234 wrote: post #153
vetinari wrote: post #118

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> Not failing to recognize the external display upon docking, despite the display working a few minutes earlier. Now that you mention it... I have exactly the same problem with rMBP since upgrading to 10.13.5. Just this monday morning I've spent 20 minutes checking all the cables and why it doesn't work, until I rebooted the machine and then it suddenly worked.

It's so bad. My MBP used to work flawlessly here, connecting and disconnecting from monitors, shutting and opening the lid. Now every time it goes to sleep it loses the ability to talk to my mouse. I've given up and just set the display to remain on for an hour. Sigh.

UGH, it’s so frustrating!
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