I Don’t Believe in Full-Stack Engineering

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Post by jxub » Wed, Jun 27, 2018, 8:37 PM UTC

I Don’t Believe in Full-Stack Engineering
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Re: I Don’t Believe in Full-Stack Engineering

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Post by tckr » Wed, Jun 27, 2018, 9:13 PM UTC

I agree!

I blogged this with the point of view of a full-stack developer that can do front-end development, but rather didn't a while ago: https://coderbyheart.com/the-full-stack-developer-trap/

Re: I Don’t Believe in Full-Stack Engineering

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Post by aphextron » Wed, Jun 27, 2018, 10:16 PM UTC

Completely agreed. "Full-stack" developers fall into two camps; that is the "web developers" who know enough PHP/Node/Whatever to build a CRUD app with UI, and the serious software engineers who treat front-end as an "oh whatever" afterthought. Both end up with nothing but a huge mess at scale.

Re: I Don’t Believe in Full-Stack Engineering

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Jun 27, 2018, 10:19 PM UTC

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Re: I Don’t Believe in Full-Stack Engineering

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Post by flashgordon » Wed, Jun 27, 2018, 10:20 PM UTC

Oh thank god! Finally glad to see this koolaid getting dispersed. I hope some of the glory gets reimbursed to embedded and systems level engineers too :)

Re: I Don’t Believe in Full-Stack Engineering

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Post by chrisabrams » Wed, Jun 27, 2018, 10:29 PM UTC

I once met a software engineer who said I was not full-stack because I didn't know how to add to the Linux Kernal. I once met a hiring manager who said I'm not front-end because I don't know how to vertically shard MySQL and "every front-end developer knows how to do that." Technology stacks differ per company and the definition of the title will also differ. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Re: I Don’t Believe in Full-Stack Engineering

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Post by thebooglebooski » Wed, Jun 27, 2018, 10:29 PM UTC

aphextron wrote: post #3

Completely agreed. "Full-stack" developers fall into two camps; that is the "web developers" who know enough PHP/Node/Whatever to build a CRUD app with UI, and the serious software engineers who treat front-end as an "oh whatever" afterthought. Both end up with nothing but a huge mess at scale.

Web developers are not serious?

Re: I Don’t Believe in Full-Stack Engineering

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Post by suff » Wed, Jun 27, 2018, 10:37 PM UTC

A full stack developer is what turns into an Architect. If you cannot build, operate, tune and debug the full stack, at scale, you are not an architect.

Re: I Don’t Believe in Full-Stack Engineering

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Post by omni » Wed, Jun 27, 2018, 10:39 PM UTC

chrisabrams wrote: post #6

I once met a software engineer who said I was not full-stack because I didn't know how to add to the Linux Kernal. I once met a hiring manager who said I'm not front-end because I don't know how to vertically shard MySQL and "every front-end developer knows how to do that." Technology stacks differ per company and the definition of the title will also differ. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

You should do everyone a solid and name-and-shame the frontend/MySQL company because dear God that's horrifying.

Re: I Don’t Believe in Full-Stack Engineering

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Post by cm2187 » Wed, Jun 27, 2018, 10:41 PM UTC

This is starting from the assumption that every website must be an SPA, which I am not sure I agree with. Most of the time you really don’t need that much stuff on the client.