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Re: Launch HN: The Lobby (YC W18) – 1-on-1 calls with company insiders to get hired

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I sit squarely in the "insider" role here, and normally would be very interested in anyone who is proactively calling me up and saying "i want to work on your team" - but to avoid breaking any protocols / laws we would want the interviewee to come in the front door as usual. All I suspect that is happening here is if I sign up as one of your insiders, you drop me interesting candidates and then they have to go throug…

I don't think you understand what this product is. Looking at your bio/comment history, I don't think you work in a field that this product is targeted to.

Re: Launch HN: The Lobby (YC W18) – 1-on-1 calls with company insiders to get hired

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I sit squarely in the "insider" role here, and normally would be very interested in anyone who is proactively calling me up and saying "i want to work on your team" - but to avoid breaking any protocols / laws we would want the interviewee to come in the front door as usual. All I suspect that is happening here is if I sign up as one of your insiders, you drop me interesting candidates and then they have to go throug…

> Also, why are the interviewees paying? It cannot be to pay me (the insider) cos that breaks many ethical and probably legal rules. Why?

Because that’s equivalent to bribery?

Re: Launch HN: The Lobby (YC W18) – 1-on-1 calls with company insiders to get hired

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post #7

I sit squarely in the "insider" role here, and normally would be very interested in anyone who is proactively calling me up and saying "i want to work on your team" - but to avoid breaking any protocols / laws we would want the interviewee to come in the front door as usual. All I suspect that is happening here is if I sign up as one of your insiders, you drop me interesting candidates and then they have to go throug…

> Also, why are the interviewees paying? It cannot be to pay me (the insider) cos that breaks many ethical and probably legal rules. Why?

To reiterate part of the above comment, we think that this is really life-changing insight and advice. It's definitely free to ask people for help on LinkedIn or go through your network but think of how inefficient and random that is.

If I don't happen to be a 2nd degree connection of someone at the company and group I dream of working in, and they don't answer my cold email - then what do I do?

Further - if you have interviews coming up, people with friends on the inside have a HUGE advantage in how to prepare. We think that should be accessible, and it's a paid service because as much as I'd like, most people won't do this for free unless it's for a friend or family member.

I was one of those people who'd spend hours helping for free, but I could only help people who wanted to work in my specific team. When time came to refer them to someone else, it was really hard to get busy people to agree to do this.

Re: Launch HN: The Lobby (YC W18) – 1-on-1 calls with company insiders to get hired

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Also, why are the interviewees paying? It cannot be to pay me (the insider) cos that breaks many ethical and probably legal rules. Why?

Because that’s equivalent to bribery?

I respect that this is a new way of doing things, but would disagree. With The Lobby, they're not obliged to give you a referral, a job, an interview or anything of the sort.

They only get paid for their time and insights. Our thesis is that the "insider" has in their head (even in the junior-most roles) incredible insight into what it takes to land a job they have, how to position their story, what recruiting timelines are like and more.

This information is not available online always. Sometimes, it's never posted online at all. For the most competitive roles, you tell your team and they tell their friends and a pile of resumes come in before any "outsider" has a chance to figure out they're even hiring.

Re: Launch HN: The Lobby (YC W18) – 1-on-1 calls with company insiders to get hired

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Are the insiders paid, and do their employers know they're working with you guys?

Insiders are paid as individual advisors. We don't work with employers, so we ask insiders to make sure this is OK with their company. In some cases, there are employer policies against them doing this, and in those cases, we focus on former employees.

Former employees still have the network and the knowledge on what it takes to land the job, what the culture is like, and how to help someone prepare for interviews.

Re: Launch HN: The Lobby (YC W18) – 1-on-1 calls with company insiders to get hired

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post #4

This is awesome! FYI - I entered my email at the top of the page and clicked "Get Started", and nothing happened.[0] Would love to know when the jobs expand to tech. Junior-level software engineering positions are becoming more difficult to get as the number of CS majors has exploded, and allowing them to practice with CS managers would be very helpful. [0] The javascript error in the console: Uncaught TypeError: win…

Can you try again now?

Re: Launch HN: The Lobby (YC W18) – 1-on-1 calls with company insiders to get hired

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I sit squarely in the "insider" role here, and normally would be very interested in anyone who is proactively calling me up and saying "i want to work on your team" - but to avoid breaking any protocols / laws we would want the interviewee to come in the front door as usual. All I suspect that is happening here is if I sign up as one of your insiders, you drop me interesting candidates and then they have to go throug…

I should also add - when people call you up directly and say "I want to work on your team" the dynamic is incredibly different than when you use The Lobby.

On the candidate side, this entire conversation is about impressing you and making you potentially like me. I'm not going to ask you real questions that I'd ask a friend on the inside on culture, compensation, recruiting process.

And on your end, it's basically an interview. You're not really on the "candidate's side," you're evaluating them and judging everything they say while comparing that to other candidates you speak with.

Re: Launch HN: The Lobby (YC W18) – 1-on-1 calls with company insiders to get hired

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This is extremely smart. I hope you succeed, especially considering I was initially filled with cynicism for the first five seconds until I read your marketing type. Others might disagree, but it won me over because it reminded me of similar products in other markets.

A good analogy in the audit space would be a pre-assessment. You pay for a pre-assessment to get an informal walk through the process on a much smaller timeframe to get a better understanding of your gaps. Examples could be SOC1 or SOC2 pre-assessments, where failing the pre-assessment is a no-impact matter. Failing an actual assessment which produces results could mean having an exception-filled report to give to clients or potentially even deciding that disclosing such a report poses more downside in converting sales, meaning you just wasted a six figure assessment by burying the report.

Lobby conversations/interviews could result in referrals, which means these effectively act as no-risk interviews with people in the know with hiring processes at the desired firms.

This looks like a potentially solid initial go at a practice market, where the risk of utterly bombing an interview and potentially getting turned down for future opportunities at a desired firm might actually run high.

There's a market for practice runs in anything where the final result will be materially impactful in the long term, especially where final results pose potential significant downside compared to the base state.

Re: Launch HN: The Lobby (YC W18) – 1-on-1 calls with company insiders to get hired

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I sit squarely in the "insider" role here, and normally would be very interested in anyone who is proactively calling me up and saying "i want to work on your team" - but to avoid breaking any protocols / laws we would want the interviewee to come in the front door as usual. All I suspect that is happening here is if I sign up as one of your insiders, you drop me interesting candidates and then they have to go throug…

  Also, why are the interviewees paying? It cannot
  be to pay me (the insider)
It's a question of whether the insider is on your side of the table or the company's.

There are some pieces of career advice that are, if not employer-hostile, then at least not entirely employer friendly.

For example, will my strong foreign accent block me from promotion into the upper echelons of your company? Someone on the company's side of the table would tell me what the recruitment website says: "We're an equal opportunities employer and don't discriminate, communication skills are important of course" whereas someone on my side of the table might give a more frank response, like "Yes you're going to need to work on that"

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