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A legend reborn: Microsoft brings back the iconic Classic IntelliMouse

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Re: A legend reborn: Microsoft brings back the iconic Classic IntelliMouse

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Post by vollmond »

noelwelsh wrote: post #25
teslabox wrote: post #13

I wish they'd bring back the Microsoft Trackball Explorer - the button switches on mine eventually wore out. This had five buttons - left, right, scroll-click, forward, back (all programmable). https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=microsoft%20trackball%2... Question for the lefties: what kind of pointing device do you prefer? Mouse? Touchpad? Do you prefer to swap L&R clicks when you use other people's computers?

I use a trackball in my right hand. I use a trackball as it's more ergonomic, and I've had wrist pain in the past from using a mouse. I use my right hand because the oppressive burden of living in a rightie dominated world has made me somewhat ambidextrous. I switch to a mouse in my left-hand for the occasional times I'm gaming. My last two trackballs have been imports from Japan. Apparently somebody claims a patent…

> Apparently somebody claims a patent on the trackball, and sued Logitech, who have since ceased production of them.

Huh? I'm confused.

Thumb: https://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/wireless-trackball-m5...

Finger: https://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/trackman-marble?crid=...

Re: A legend reborn: Microsoft brings back the iconic Classic IntelliMouse

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Post by alexeiz »

What's the point of a wired mouse today? Unless you're a gamer, you should use a wireless mouse. The freedom of movement is really important, and the mouse cord always gets in the way.

To Microsoft: please make a good ergonomic wireless mouse. The Sculpt Ergonomic mouse is OK, but it's kind of old now, and it's too bulky. There is a lot to improve.

Re: A legend reborn: Microsoft brings back the iconic Classic IntelliMouse

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Post by AstralStorm »

hs86 wrote: post #10
IshKebab wrote: post #4

This is great, but I really wish they'd bring back the "Wheel Mouse Optical" - it is symmetric which is good if you're ambidextrous or share with left handers, and more importantly it doesn't have those annoying side buttons. Still I'm glad Microsoft realised there was a lot of demand for this.

I used the Microsoft IntelliMouse Optical for years until I discovered the SteelSeries Sensei. It is a gaming brand, which means you will have useless lights on it but it still has the symmetric design like the IntelliMouse and has additional buttons on each side that can be remapped with the (not soooo bad) driver software. Tangential, but I can't understand how left handers can be neglected by peripheral hardware m…

I got bit by SteelSeries Sai when right button switch wore out (classic double click disease) and I was unable to source a replacement switch.

Plus the thing failed to initialize in a few EFI because it takes way too many seconds to start and show up on USB bus.

The replacement Logitech G905 works much better, though it has one fewer usable button.

Re: A legend reborn: Microsoft brings back the iconic Classic IntelliMouse

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Post by toast0 »

alexeiz wrote: post #62

What's the point of a wired mouse today? Unless you're a gamer, you should use a wireless mouse. The freedom of movement is really important, and the mouse cord always gets in the way. To Microsoft: please make a good ergonomic wireless mouse. The Sculpt Ergonomic mouse is OK, but it's kind of old now, and it's too bulky. There is a lot to improve.

Wireless is a pain when you're in an office with 3 square feet per person,and everyone is poluting the spectrum. Wired mice pretty much just work and don't need to be charged or have batteries changed. Getting the cord situated can be an art, but once it's done, it's done.

Re: A legend reborn: Microsoft brings back the iconic Classic IntelliMouse

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Post by Globz »

MX518 for life, this mouse has been used daily for over 10 years and I have a spare one just in case I need to replace some pieces, which never happened so far.

I do no longer use it for gaming since its now outclassed but it is now being use in my office and may one day die in peace after such a long life span.

I wish they would upgrade the internals and keep the same design which is honestly reliable and comfortable, I have never owned a mouse which fits my hand like this one does.

Re: A legend reborn: Microsoft brings back the iconic Classic IntelliMouse

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Post by Fnoord »

crysin wrote: post #54
eberkund wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have both a Zowie and the new Intellimouse and my Zowie which I have been using for about a year at home is already succumbing to double click issues. The Microsoft mouse I've been using for about 6 months at work and I don't have any complaints yet. I previously used Razer deathadder mouses and found they were also poor quality and started double clicking after a few months of use.

Anecdotal, but I've never had a Razer mouse go bad on me in under 2 years and that's with some fairly consistent heavy use.

Anecdotal, I have seen Razer mice go bad, but Naga. Various Naga, btw, though admittedly with extensive use. I've also had various Razer keyboards go bad. Deathadder mice, however, have been great for me (I've had two). I even had one of the first for almost ten years. You can replace the feet on these mice, btw, but it isn't well advertised. Also, keeping them clean and having a good mousemat helps. A friend of me had a Razer mouse double click issue (unsure which one) and used a piece of paper to fix it.

The Deathadder was once a legendary good mouse but Razer no longer delivers the quality for the price I'd appreciate. And they seem to focus too much on their disco light BS (Chroma) which I don't need. Their mechanical keyboards are in my experience lousy (Anansi also didn't suit my needs): noisy and cheap key caps. I do like that my BlackWidow has USB passthrough on the right side. Works very well together with YubiKey and/or fingerprint reader.

FWIW, I'm in the market for a new keyboard which can be used for (but not primarily) gaming (don't need dedicated arrow keys, home/end/del/etc nor keypad) but has to be a silent, mechanical keyboard with USB passthrough on the right.

Re: A legend reborn: Microsoft brings back the iconic Classic IntelliMouse

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Post by existencebox »

crysin wrote: post #54
eberkund wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have both a Zowie and the new Intellimouse and my Zowie which I have been using for about a year at home is already succumbing to double click issues. The Microsoft mouse I've been using for about 6 months at work and I don't have any complaints yet. I previously used Razer deathadder mouses and found they were also poor quality and started double clicking after a few months of use.

Anecdotal, but I've never had a Razer mouse go bad on me in under 2 years and that's with some fairly consistent heavy use.

I swear by razors, I've used two DA's over the last 8-10 years. Both succomed to a failing middle button/scroll, and double clicking issues (although only on the middle button for me), but it took about 2~ years for the problem to occur, and another 1~ for it to get"bad", which I considered very acceptable.

I've unfortunately heard that the build quality has dropped in the interim. Don't know how much truth this is, currently debating my next mouse. I would straight drop 1-200$ if I could get a DA form factor/weight but with a better middle button and a handful of more function buttons along the mid-line/sides, _and know that it would last_ but all the options I see nowadays seem to be "From that list, choose ~2 things". If anyone has opinions, I'd be curious to hear, since god knows I trust here more than Amazon/Newegg reviews.

Re: A legend reborn: Microsoft brings back the iconic Classic IntelliMouse

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Post by regularfry »

Analemma_ wrote: post #50
coreymaass wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a leftie but started on mice in the 90s with my right hand, so I never had to relearn. I used the Microsoft Trackball Explorer for a decade. I'm many years into the Logitech Cordless TrackMan Optical, but mine is starting to have problems. Every couple of months I look for the "next thing" but didn't know there's a patent on trackballs preventing production. Heartbreaking.

Same here: lefty but mouses with my right hand (which is pretty much the only thing I use my right hand for). Are there actually any lefties who use their left hand to use the mouse? Using the right hand is so much more convenient because then I can simultaneously type with my dominant hand. I'm surprised more righties don't mouse with their left hand, tbh.

I do this. It's much quicker to switch my left hand to the mouse than my right because I don't have to get past the number pad.

Re: A legend reborn: Microsoft brings back the iconic Classic IntelliMouse

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Post by detritus »

crysin wrote: post #54
eberkund wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have both a Zowie and the new Intellimouse and my Zowie which I have been using for about a year at home is already succumbing to double click issues. The Microsoft mouse I've been using for about 6 months at work and I don't have any complaints yet. I previously used Razer deathadder mouses and found they were also poor quality and started double clicking after a few months of use.

Anecdotal, but I've never had a Razer mouse go bad on me in under 2 years and that's with some fairly consistent heavy use.

Likewise, my Razer Deathadder's at least (at least!) 8 years old and is my daily driver on my work machine, which sometimes gets appropriated for late night FPS sessions.

it's grotty as hell, but works like a charm.

Just adding this here as I've read a lot of complaints about Razer over the years, but I know complaints are louder and more frequent than quiet appreciation.

/anecdotage

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