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A legend reborn: Microsoft brings back the iconic Classic IntelliMouse

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Re: A legend reborn: Microsoft brings back the iconic Classic IntelliMouse

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Why the hell one needs a vendor-provided device driver for a mouse?!

Configure buttons and other functionality the OS doesn't have a standard interface for.

I assume any sensible mouse driver would have the possibility to extend the protocol for more buttons, scroll thingies and, say, rotation, braking, on-mouse output and so on.

Re: A legend reborn: Microsoft brings back the iconic Classic IntelliMouse

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I use a trackball in my right hand. I use a trackball as it's more ergonomic, and I've had wrist pain in the past from using a mouse. I use my right hand because the oppressive burden of living in a rightie dominated world has made me somewhat ambidextrous. I switch to a mouse in my left-hand for the occasional times I'm gaming. My last two trackballs have been imports from Japan. Apparently somebody claims a patent…

Any tips on Japanese models, and where to buy them?

What xkfm said: Amazon, and Elecom or Sanwa Supply. I had a Sanwa Supply and it broke after a couple of years (switches died). Not really a big deal but I'm now using an Elecom and it's been fine for the year or so I've had it. I wanted thumb operated and wired, for which there is no other option AFAIK.

Re: A legend reborn: Microsoft brings back the iconic Classic IntelliMouse

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post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Configure buttons and other functionality the OS doesn't have a standard interface for.

I assume any sensible mouse driver would have the possibility to extend the protocol for more buttons, scroll thingies and, say, rotation, braking, on-mouse output and so on.

Well, on the two major desktop operating systems they don't, or at least not for everything on offer.

Re: A legend reborn: Microsoft brings back the iconic Classic IntelliMouse

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Too little, too late. Zowie copied the classic Intellimouse shapes, but offer them in a range of sizes with a class-leading optical sensor. https://zowie.benq.com/en/product/mouse.html The new Intellimouse preserves the old shape, but ignores the thing that made it legendary in the first place - the MLT04 sensor, which was (entirely accidentally) perfect for FPS gaming. Microsoft don't even mention their choice of se…

I have both a Zowie and the new Intellimouse and my Zowie which I have been using for about a year at home is already succumbing to double click issues. The Microsoft mouse I've been using for about 6 months at work and I don't have any complaints yet. I previously used Razer deathadder mouses and found they were also poor quality and started double clicking after a few months of use.

Anecdotal, but I've never had a Razer mouse go bad on me in under 2 years and that's with some fairly consistent heavy use.

Re: A legend reborn: Microsoft brings back the iconic Classic IntelliMouse

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Too little, too late. Zowie copied the classic Intellimouse shapes, but offer them in a range of sizes with a class-leading optical sensor. https://zowie.benq.com/en/product/mouse.html The new Intellimouse preserves the old shape, but ignores the thing that made it legendary in the first place - the MLT04 sensor, which was (entirely accidentally) perfect for FPS gaming. Microsoft don't even mention their choice of se…

People have already tested it, and it's not good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPTkaqQc0CU&t=342

Re: A legend reborn: Microsoft brings back the iconic Classic IntelliMouse

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The one thing I've never liked about Microsoft mice is that the scroll wheel doesn't click the way it does in everyone else's mice. It's too bad, because everything else about their mice was good, but that scroll wheel was a dealbreaker.

I use the Logitech MX Master, which allows you to turn on and off the clicking. You can even program one of the buttons to turn it on and off. When I write that out, it seems like a dumb feature, but boy do I use it a lot.

I use it constantly. I like how the charging plug is at the front compared to the Revolution which requires you to cradle the mouse.

I use both the receiver and the Bluetooth support, and the three receiver function daily.

I love the shape of the mouse, truly the best mouse I've owned.

Re: A legend reborn: Microsoft brings back the iconic Classic IntelliMouse

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So they took one of the best ambidextrous mice and made it right handed? Thanks! But seriously, I know left handers are only 10% of the population, but I'm sick of being left behind, no pun intended. I've been using the Razer Deathadder for years and it's served me well. Well, the ergonomics for that matter anyway. Some of the choices with the structure are questionable at best. On the inside the mouse is split into…

I think only the very first version of the IntelliMouse was ambidextrous, all the rest were right handed, including the Explorer 3.0 that this appears to be based off of.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IntelliMouse

Re: A legend reborn: Microsoft brings back the iconic Classic IntelliMouse

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The one thing I've never liked about Microsoft mice is that the scroll wheel doesn't click the way it does in everyone else's mice. It's too bad, because everything else about their mice was good, but that scroll wheel was a dealbreaker.

Those are called "detents", and the original IntelliMouse Explorer 3.0 had very clicky detents. I'm hoping they bring those back as well, because I agree with you - every mouse MS has produced since then has done away with them, and a lot of other mice from other companies have as well, and I miss them.

Re: A legend reborn: Microsoft brings back the iconic Classic IntelliMouse

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I'm happy to see this, although it's kind of disappointing that "perfect" products are ever retired in the first place in the constant drive for change, often simply for change's sake. I'm not against improvement, of course - the iPhone X is one of the most perfect products I've ever had the pleasure of owning - but at the same time the current Macbook Pro is the first model I've literally not wanted because of how b…

Most likely the plastic molds wore out and the decision came to either spend $100k per mold to restart production or sell a new product. Usually the right thing to do is to modernize the product at this point.

It's not a choice between leaving things alone and change for change's sake.

Re: A legend reborn: Microsoft brings back the iconic Classic IntelliMouse

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It took me a while to find a mouse I was happy with, but now that Razer required me to update my _mouse driver_ for GDPR compliance, I am thinking about switching to this. In general, I like my hardware to come with as little software as possible.

Why the hell one needs a vendor-provided device driver for a mouse?!

There's a flashing LED light inside the thing and the driver controls how the light behaves. I grant that this is at best unnecessary, but let's just say that the market for wired mice with decent ergonomic characteristics and heft is dominated by people who really like flashing LED lights and so I took what I could get.
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