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Re: Slack outage: Connectivity issues affecting all workspaces

#81
post #53

Despite having a vote increment velocity far exceeding other items, a publish time of only 25 minutes ago, and more points, this item just dropped from #5 to #7 on the front page. How’s that work exactly? Edit: It’s now droppped to #14 even with comment count also rapidly increasing.

Comment count is a factor. edit: it's a negative factor...

Thanks for the clarity, this makes more sense now!

Re: Slack outage: Connectivity issues affecting all workspaces

#83

If only there were a venerable, decentralized instant messaging system we could use, perhaps some kind of internet relay chat system... You reap what you sow. Depending on Slack for your communications is a bad idea. I can't even remember the last time any of the IRC networks I frequent had a total outage.

Irc left out federation when the spec was crafted in 1984. It was deemed to bandwidth heavy. Jabber/xmpp was a good step in the right direction. Too bad it overused plugins and bad extensions and XML abuse. Would have been loads better had they though far enough in advance.

It's not federated, but it is distributed and fault tolerant. The protocol is open and widely implemented and the implementations are mature and stable.

Re: Slack outage: Connectivity issues affecting all workspaces

#84
post #73
post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Luckily most of my active communities are on Discord nowadays. It works much faster and even has a dark theme by default.

I say this as someone who almost always prefers the dark theme wherever it is available: I wonder how much this desire for dark interfaces comes from almost every app interface having bright colors on white. Somewhere along the shift to flat design, grays and non-bright colors have been ignored in the visual design of applications.

In civil engineering circles, it's known that a room which is too bright will cause eye strain and fatigue. There is an optimal level of light for the eyes to be most effective. But the computer makers and UI designers don't take this into account. Dark themes transmit less light to the eyes, causing less fatigue over time.

Re: Slack outage: Connectivity issues affecting all workspaces

#85
post #57

Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but "We've received word that all workspaces are having troubles connecting to Slack." makes it sound like their internal monitoring didn't catch whatever is causing this. I was personally experiencing issues for about 20-30 minutes before the status update was posted.

I think that is just the tongue in cheek language they like to use.

Re: Slack outage: Connectivity issues affecting all workspaces

#86
post #57

Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but "We've received word that all workspaces are having troubles connecting to Slack." makes it sound like their internal monitoring didn't catch whatever is causing this. I was personally experiencing issues for about 20-30 minutes before the status update was posted.

Their subsequent update makes it sound like they still don't have a clue.

> Our team is still looking into the cause of the connectivity issues, and we'll continue to update you on our progress.

Re: Slack outage: Connectivity issues affecting all workspaces

#87

If only there were a venerable, decentralized instant messaging system we could use, perhaps some kind of internet relay chat system... You reap what you sow. Depending on Slack for your communications is a bad idea. I can't even remember the last time any of the IRC networks I frequent had a total outage.

So you are saying people should sow discord?

Re: Slack outage: Connectivity issues affecting all workspaces

#88
post #44
post #3

It's times like this I wish there was a solid decentralized standard to pick from, but there's no clear choice between XMPP and Matrix.

There's always IRC ;-)

IRC is actually viable, with https://riot.im for offline logging and mobile access.

Re: Slack outage: Connectivity issues affecting all workspaces

#89
post #51

Are there solid Slack-style self-hosted alternatives? (The gitlab of the slack world, to be clear.)

Matrix (https://matrix.org) is a good alternative to both Slack and Discord. The most complete client implementation is Riot (https://riot.im/).

The protocol itself is federated, so you can communicate with other Matrix users from your self-hosted instance. There are also bridges to IRC, XMPP, even Slack..

Re: Slack outage: Connectivity issues affecting all workspaces

#90
post #33

You know how much of the community uses one messaging system when 15 minutes after it going down, it has over 40 points on the front page! This says a lot about how it's a single point of failure in modern company comms. It's even worrying to think about how some users probably have production-dependent (dare I postulate it) workflows in Slack that get crippled by its outage... ITT: Chat about decentralisation that w…

Yes it's a single point of failure, but so what? I don't particularly care whether other organizations fail at the same time as I do, I just care whether I fail. Hosting my own chat system does not solve that problem. In fact, it may make it worse because then I have to worry about system administration, and Slack probably has more expertise on that. It's likely that they can fix this problem for all customers faster than I can fix my problem for myself. And it's not like I'm crippled when Slack is down. If it's urgent I can use the phone, and my todo list is stored outside Slack.
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