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Norwegian Consumer Council report on how tech companies use dark patterns [pdf]

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Great summary, hopefully the EU can deliver what these companies are asking for.

Doesn't invalidate what you said, but just in case: Norway is not in the EU.

May as well be, as via the EEA we seem to adopt more directives from Brussels than some full members...

Re: Norwegian Consumer Council report on how tech companies use dark patterns [pdf]

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> As the screenshots below illustrate, the Facebook GDPR popup requires users to go into “Manage data settings” to turn off ads based on data from third parties. If the user simply clicks “Accept and continue”, the setting is automatically turned on. This is not privacy by default.

Beautiful! A minimal demonstration of a clear violation of the principal of data protection by default (article 25 of the GDPR).

It will we really hard to talk oneself out of this one.

Re: Norwegian Consumer Council report on how tech companies use dark patterns [pdf]

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Great summary, hopefully the EU can deliver what these companies are asking for.

Doesn't invalidate what you said, but just in case: Norway is not in the EU.

As Norway is a member of EEA (European Economic Area) they get GDPR anyway.

https://easygdpr.eu/2017/09/gdpr-in-norway-personal-data-act...

Re: Norwegian Consumer Council report on how tech companies use dark patterns [pdf]

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Page 14: [edit: number corrected, thanks] > As the screenshots below illustrate, the Facebook GDPR popup requires users to go into “Manage data settings” to turn off ads based on data from third parties. If the user simply clicks “Accept and continue”, the setting is automatically turned on. This is not privacy by default. Beautiful! A minimal demonstration of a clear violation of the principal of data protection by…

That flow was really scummy. I remember going through it.

The entry point was an email claiming you have to "read and accept the updated policies in order to continue using the site". And the first thing you're presented with was that two-choice "Manage data settings" / "Accept and continue", implying for the user who is less than extremely careful that if you don't "Accept and continue", you won't be able to use the site anymore.

It's only after that modal that you're presented with the updated T&Cs which you indeed need to either accept or delete your account.

And of course all the various things people have noted:

- A red dot in the fake-header to make you think you have pending notifications

- A complete disregard for "privacy by default"

All this right after Mark testified in congress saying "no we used to be bad and we made mistakes but now we really care, you see".

For a site that despises transparency, Facebook has never been so transparent about how little it gives a crap about its users.

I have some friends working at Facebook who will probably read this and be upset I think so little of their place of work. Folks, I have a huge respect for some of the excellent work that goes on at Facebook, especially in open source. But that doesn't change how scummy the core site itself is.

Re: Norwegian Consumer Council report on how tech companies use dark patterns [pdf]

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Page 14: [edit: number corrected, thanks] > As the screenshots below illustrate, the Facebook GDPR popup requires users to go into “Manage data settings” to turn off ads based on data from third parties. If the user simply clicks “Accept and continue”, the setting is automatically turned on. This is not privacy by default. Beautiful! A minimal demonstration of a clear violation of the principal of data protection by…

Note that Facebook still refuses to let you opt out of personalised advertising based on Facebook activity.

This is the most blatant malcompliance with GDPR IMO, when will data protection authorities start fining FB?

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