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Re: Going IPv6 Only [pdf]

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Credit where it's due. I'm generally against anything the big 4 touch, but TMo has been absolutely on the forefront of IPv6. The first time I saw IPv6 in the wild was while on a TMo data connection.

Re: Going IPv6 Only [pdf]

#3
I'm glad that someone is finally doing this. We all really need someone to force us to migrate to v6 finally, and I only did that once I realized I couldn't access my home network over cellular anymore.

Re: Going IPv6 Only [pdf]

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On my home network, all my device have IPv6. Unfortunately, it not native IPv6: the AT&T LTE device I use for my home internet doesn't support IPv6. (Why LTE? It's a long story- I frequently travel, and I take my connection with me. Comcast doesn't make much sense. LTE latency and bandwidth are good enough)

Anyway, whenever I get a server, I make sure IPv6 is supported. No IPv6, no business from me -- even for a VPS.

With IPv6, I don't have to worry about NAT: I can always ssh to any of my machines (or the VMs) from anywhere. It's just simpler.

When I'm abroad and don't have IPv6, I ssh to one of my servers so I can connect to my home devices. That's a nuisance I'd like to avoid.

It's nice to know TMob is going IPv6 only. When I replace my "home" LTE internet, I may switch from AT&T to TMobile if the price is competitive.

Re: Going IPv6 Only [pdf]

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> "At WWDC 2015 Apple announced the transition to IPv6-only network services in iOS 9. Starting June 1, 2016 all apps submitted to the App Store must support IPv6-only networking."

In effect this is not true, as a developer without the time to fully implement IPv6-only networking I've been slapped with this rule in the app store review guidelines for non-complying apps numerous times. Just submit a new review and you'll get another reviewer who does not check this and you'll pass.

The rule they cite is also that you have to be able to support IPv6 for iPad-apps, not iPhone apps...

So even if it's the rule, I think that in reality it's not going to be true for all the users apps.

Re: Going IPv6 Only [pdf]

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post #3

I'm glad that someone is finally doing this. We all really need someone to force us to migrate to v6 finally, and I only did that once I realized I couldn't access my home network over cellular anymore.

What do you do if your cellular provider goes IPv6-only, but your home ISP will only give you a v4 address?

Re: Going IPv6 Only [pdf]

#8

> "At WWDC 2015 Apple announced the transition to IPv6-only network services in iOS 9. Starting June 1, 2016 all apps submitted to the App Store must support IPv6-only networking." In effect this is not true, as a developer without the time to fully implement IPv6-only networking I've been slapped with this rule in the app store review guidelines for non-complying apps numerous times. Just submit a new review and you…

A rule that is not enforced properly does not invalidate the rule. Do you want to rely for your app to get approved to get a non-enforcing reviewer forever in the future? Also think of your customers on networks like TMo.

Re: Going IPv6 Only [pdf]

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post #4

geoff-huston from apnic, has this set : https://ripe76.ripe.net/presentations/9-2018-05-17-ipv6-reas... describing world-wide ipv6 deployment, and the conclusion there seems to be that v6 deployment is actually slowing down, and the conclusion seems to be that no one knows why...

Despite his conclusion, he likely answers it here:

• The Client / Server CDN-centric Internet does not require each endpoint to have a globally unique permanent address

• Addresses are increasingly being used in the role of ephemeral session tokens, not as persistent endpoint identifiers

If you have to support ipv4 anyway and the benefit of ipv6 for your services is not high enough, why bother?

Re: Going IPv6 Only [pdf]

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post #7
post #3

I'm glad that someone is finally doing this. We all really need someone to force us to migrate to v6 finally, and I only did that once I realized I couldn't access my home network over cellular anymore.

What do you do if your cellular provider goes IPv6-only, but your home ISP will only give you a v4 address?

> What do you do if your cellular provider goes IPv6-only, but your home ISP will only give you a v4 address?

Get a tunnel from he[1] and access the home network through that.

[1]https://tunnelbroker.net/

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