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Berkeley Deep Drive Dataset

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Re: Berkeley Deep Drive Dataset

#11

Post by MBCook »

ironjunkie wrote: post #8
quickben wrote: post #3

The website doesn't work in Firefox. "FAQ: The download buttons do not work". "The website is fully supported by Chrome now" The current state of the internet, has reached a very low point. One would expect more from berkley. edu . EDIT: I find the downvotes preposterous. Are we somehow supposed to expect requiring a proprietary browser to simply download a file from an educational institution now?

Since when is Chrome a reference? If you want something not proprietary, why don't you use Firefox?

It’s in DOWNLOAD button. How does it not work in EVERY browser?

A link would. A form submission would. Ultra simple JavaScript would.

It’s not a question of “why doesn’t chrome work“ but more a question of “how is this even an issue“.

Re: Berkeley Deep Drive Dataset

#12

Post by rectang »

trillic wrote: post #4

License: """ Copyright ©2018. The Regents of the University of California (Regents). All Rights Reserved. Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software and its documentation for educational, research, and not-for-profit purposes, without fee and without a signed licensing agreement; and permission use, copy, modify and distribute this software for commercial purposes (such rights not subject to transf…

If I'm reading that right, it's not an open source license. It has a field-of-use restriction because only Berkeley Deep Dive members can use it for commercial purposes.

EDIT: The title of this HN topic is wrong. It's not what's in the source and it to be changed. (I'm relieved that it's just a submitter summarizing incorrectly and that Berkeley Deep Dive was not responsible for this mistake.)

Re: Berkeley Deep Drive Dataset

#13

Post by ironjunkie »

MBCook wrote: post #11
ironjunkie wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since when is Chrome a reference? If you want something not proprietary, why don't you use Firefox?

It’s in DOWNLOAD button. How does it not work in EVERY browser? A link would. A form submission would. Ultra simple JavaScript would. It’s not a question of “why doesn’t chrome work“ but more a question of “how is this even an issue“.

In this case I agree with you. I was just pointing out that we should be careful with Chrome being used as a "reference".

Re: Berkeley Deep Drive Dataset

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Post by mehrdadn »

rectang wrote: post #12
trillic wrote: post #4

License: """ Copyright ©2018. The Regents of the University of California (Regents). All Rights Reserved. Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software and its documentation for educational, research, and not-for-profit purposes, without fee and without a signed licensing agreement; and permission use, copy, modify and distribute this software for commercial purposes (such rights not subject to transf…

If I'm reading that right, it's not an open source license. It has a field-of-use restriction because only Berkeley Deep Dive members can use it for commercial purposes. EDIT: The title of this HN topic is wrong. It's not what's in the source and it to be changed. (I'm relieved that it's just a submitter summarizing incorrectly and that Berkeley Deep Dive was not responsible for this mistake.)

> If I'm reading that right, it's not an open source license. It has a field-of-use restriction

How do usage terms dictate whether the source is open?

Re: Berkeley Deep Drive Dataset

#15

Post by sctb »

rectang wrote: post #12
trillic wrote: post #4

License: """ Copyright ©2018. The Regents of the University of California (Regents). All Rights Reserved. Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software and its documentation for educational, research, and not-for-profit purposes, without fee and without a signed licensing agreement; and permission use, copy, modify and distribute this software for commercial purposes (such rights not subject to transf…

If I'm reading that right, it's not an open source license. It has a field-of-use restriction because only Berkeley Deep Dive members can use it for commercial purposes. EDIT: The title of this HN topic is wrong. It's not what's in the source and it to be changed. (I'm relieved that it's just a submitter summarizing incorrectly and that Berkeley Deep Dive was not responsible for this mistake.)

Thanks, we've reverted the title from the submitted “UC Berkeley Open Sources Largest Self-Driving Dataset” to the original.

Re: Berkeley Deep Drive Dataset

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Post by rectang »

mehrdadn wrote: post #14
rectang wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I'm reading that right, it's not an open source license. It has a field-of-use restriction because only Berkeley Deep Dive members can use it for commercial purposes. EDIT: The title of this HN topic is wrong. It's not what's in the source and it to be changed. (I'm relieved that it's just a submitter summarizing incorrectly and that Berkeley Deep Dive was not responsible for this mistake.)

> If I'm reading that right, it's not an open source license. It has a field-of-use restriction How do usage terms dictate whether the source is open?

"Open" is not just whether you get to see it. Among other things, it's whether the software is open for all users to modify.

The Open Source Definition is curated by the Open Source Initiative and has been stable for many years. A huge industry rests on top of it.

https://opensource.org/osd

Re: Berkeley Deep Drive Dataset

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Post by amluto »

mehrdadn wrote: post #14
rectang wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I'm reading that right, it's not an open source license. It has a field-of-use restriction because only Berkeley Deep Dive members can use it for commercial purposes. EDIT: The title of this HN topic is wrong. It's not what's in the source and it to be changed. (I'm relieved that it's just a submitter summarizing incorrectly and that Berkeley Deep Dive was not responsible for this mistake.)

> If I'm reading that right, it's not an open source license. It has a field-of-use restriction How do usage terms dictate whether the source is open?

“Open source” means a lot more than “you may look at the source.”

https://opensource.org/osd

Re: Berkeley Deep Drive Dataset

#18

Post by mehrdadn »

rectang wrote: post #16
mehrdadn wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If I'm reading that right, it's not an open source license. It has a field-of-use restriction How do usage terms dictate whether the source is open?

"Open" is not just whether you get to see it. Among other things, it's whether the software is open for all users to modify . The Open Source Definition is curated by the Open Source Initiative and has been stable for many years. A huge industry rests on top of it. https://opensource.org/osd

So you're saying neither (say) VirtualBox nor other GNU software qualify as open-source? They seem to fail the very first sentence of criterion #1, since they place restrictions on when/how you can redistribute the source/software in aggregation with other sources/software.

Re: Berkeley Deep Drive Dataset

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Post by derefr »

MBCook wrote: post #11
ironjunkie wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since when is Chrome a reference? If you want something not proprietary, why don't you use Firefox?

It’s in DOWNLOAD button. How does it not work in EVERY browser? A link would. A form submission would. Ultra simple JavaScript would. It’s not a question of “why doesn’t chrome work“ but more a question of “how is this even an issue“.

It's a really big download (1.8TB). One where both you and they would be really rather perturbed if the download failed at 90%.

In fact, they'd probably be perturbed by the bandwidth costs even if everyone who wanted the dataset was only downloading it once.

Maybe it uses WebTorrent?

(Not sure why it couldn't just fall back to giving you a .torrent file in that case, though.)

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