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Re: Tails 3.8 is out

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I like to point out that if your hardware is compromise then it doesn't matter what you run on top of it. If you are being actively targeted by state actors(fbi,nsa,cia,etc) then your computer is more than likely compromised.

Re: Tails 3.8 is out

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post #2

I like to point out that if your hardware is compromise then it doesn't matter what you run on top of it. If you are being actively targeted by state actors(fbi,nsa,cia,etc) then your computer is more than likely compromised.

If you think the FSB is after you then you'll need better countermeasures than just running Tails on your own machine.

For the rest of us, Tails and Qubes are big improvements over an HP laptop with Windows and its ecosystem of bloatware and spyware.

Re: Tails 3.8 is out

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post #2

I like to point out that if your hardware is compromise then it doesn't matter what you run on top of it. If you are being actively targeted by state actors(fbi,nsa,cia,etc) then your computer is more than likely compromised.

Please don't encourage security nihilism[1].

There are very real measures people can take to protect their privacy, and convincing people otherwise creates harm.

[1] https://noncombatant.org/2016/01/28/against-security-nihilis...

Re: Tails 3.8 is out

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post #3
post #2

I like to point out that if your hardware is compromise then it doesn't matter what you run on top of it. If you are being actively targeted by state actors(fbi,nsa,cia,etc) then your computer is more than likely compromised.

If you think the FSB is after you then you'll need better countermeasures than just running Tails on your own machine. For the rest of us, Tails and Qubes are big improvements over an HP laptop with Windows and its ecosystem of bloatware and spyware.

"They" can't target you if they don't know who you are to begin with.

A milquetoast public persona coupled with extensive Tor usage is quite privacy protecting :)

Re: Tails 3.8 is out

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post #2

I like to point out that if your hardware is compromise then it doesn't matter what you run on top of it. If you are being actively targeted by state actors(fbi,nsa,cia,etc) then your computer is more than likely compromised.

>> If you are being actively targeted by state actors(fbi,nsa,cia,etc)

The FBI is currently investigating hundreds, thousands, of drug-related crimes. They aren't deploying advanced firmware exploits on a daily basis. If you buy a laptop from a local store, and then run something like Tails from day one, the chances of them installing a firmware exploit remotely is nill. If you want to run Tails on your 5yo desktop that you use for Facebook, minecraft, porn, and for running your drug empire... then ya. Be worried. But running Tails on a new machine is safe.

Re: Tails 3.8 is out

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post #2

I like to point out that if your hardware is compromise then it doesn't matter what you run on top of it. If you are being actively targeted by state actors(fbi,nsa,cia,etc) then your computer is more than likely compromised.

>> If you are being actively targeted by state actors(fbi,nsa,cia,etc) The FBI is currently investigating hundreds, thousands, of drug-related crimes. They aren't deploying advanced firmware exploits on a daily basis. If you buy a laptop from a local store, and then run something like Tails from day one, the chances of them installing a firmware exploit remotely is nill. If you want to run Tails on your 5yo desktop t…

ahhh but where are you purchasing this "new" computer? It'd be foolish to assume that all new devices are clean.

Re: Tails 3.8 is out

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post #2

I like to point out that if your hardware is compromise then it doesn't matter what you run on top of it. If you are being actively targeted by state actors(fbi,nsa,cia,etc) then your computer is more than likely compromised.

>> If you are being actively targeted by state actors(fbi,nsa,cia,etc) The FBI is currently investigating hundreds, thousands, of drug-related crimes. They aren't deploying advanced firmware exploits on a daily basis. If you buy a laptop from a local store, and then run something like Tails from day one, the chances of them installing a firmware exploit remotely is nill. If you want to run Tails on your 5yo desktop t…

Assuming "new" hardware is uncompromisable is a dangerous line of thinking. Don't forget about the vulnerabilities that have been found in Intel's Management Engine and AMD's PSP. Both of those "applications" are running before Tails boots.

Re: Tails 3.8 is out

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post #2

I like to point out that if your hardware is compromise then it doesn't matter what you run on top of it. If you are being actively targeted by state actors(fbi,nsa,cia,etc) then your computer is more than likely compromised.

>> If you are being actively targeted by state actors(fbi,nsa,cia,etc) The FBI is currently investigating hundreds, thousands, of drug-related crimes. They aren't deploying advanced firmware exploits on a daily basis. If you buy a laptop from a local store, and then run something like Tails from day one, the chances of them installing a firmware exploit remotely is nill. If you want to run Tails on your 5yo desktop t…

https://www.pcworld.com/article/2083300/report-nsa-intercept...

If you know you are not being targeting then you don't have to worry but... If they know who you are and where you live, they can bypass any router(they work directly with oems) and get onto your computer on a hardware level.

Keeping your identity private is the first task in security when dealing with the kind of people you need tails for.

Re: Tails 3.8 is out

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post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you think the FSB is after you then you'll need better countermeasures than just running Tails on your own machine. For the rest of us, Tails and Qubes are big improvements over an HP laptop with Windows and its ecosystem of bloatware and spyware.

"They" can't target you if they don't know who you are to begin with. A milquetoast public persona coupled with extensive Tor usage is quite privacy protecting :)

Well, you just blew your cover. They're watching you now.

Alternatively, everyone could pretend to be a muslim-environmentalist-communist with strong interests in nuclear chemistry and virology. It isn't possible to watch everyone.

Crap, they're gonna be watching me, now, too.

Are you sure you aren't an agent provocateur?

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