Thanks, this looks helpful. If you have a friend who's a native English speaker you might ask them to read it over for you. There's some awkward phrasing and tenses used throughout (I'm guessing you're European). Not complaining about free education, just trying to be constructive.
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#52Privacy Badger [1] blocks ConvertKit's email-gathering form for me.
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#53Isn't requiring an email to download an ebook one of the scenarios that GDPR states as an example of non-compliance?
I honestly haven't dived into GDPR but I don't see a problem with a website owner offering something of value (an ebook) in exchange for something else of value (an email address). Disallowing that voluntary transactions oversteps the bounds of what I view a free state to be. Would adding a second checkbox ("I'm not a resident of the EU") be a way for a site owner to still provide this to exchange to non-EU residents…
Thanks for your points. ConvertKit allows to show a GDPR consent screen to EU users. I didn't enable it at first, my fault.
Below the form the intent is clear, but you should also be allowed to only get the ebook without having any further email from me.
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#54Thanks, this looks helpful. If you have a friend who's a native English speaker you might ask them to read it over for you. There's some awkward phrasing and tenses used throughout (I'm guessing you're European). Not complaining about free education, just trying to be constructive.
Thank you, yes I'm Italian - you're right, I should have asked someone to proofread it! I'm sorry for this.
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#55I see people here complaining about the author asking for email addresses, and I can't help but think: what a coup GDPR has been for large tech companies. The author has spent hours creating a useful guide that he is giving away for free in exchange for an email address. He likely hopes to tap into this audience later for a paid product. Reaching this audience via email is cheap and easy. He can email them as many ti…
What happens if my email goes shared with other parties I don't know? GDPR was a real help for end users, reducing the amount of spam in mailboxes.
...like ConvertKit? That's who powers the form that collects emails here.
Just wanted to point out that this question is decidedly not hypothetical. Many websites use third-party services to administer their mailing lists.
Now, this makes sense from a developer's perspective since we don't all want to be rewriting mailing list tools, but I'd wager many users aren't aware that their email address is being passed on to a third party. These are the sort of tradeoffs that we're now learning to address explicitly, as opposed to sweeping them under the rug in the name of "marketing". As much as it's a pain for me as a developer, I welcome it wholeheartedly as a user.
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#56Your data collection is not GDPR compliant, see https://litmus.com/blog/5-things-you-must-know-about-email-c... .
Thanks for the heads up. I now enabled the GDPR compliance form on ConvertKit. It seems my explanation under the form is clearly not enough to explain the intent and how I will use the data, and I need explicit consent to be able to contact EU users that enter their email. I probably need to discard their emails now.
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
I honestly haven't dived into GDPR but I don't see a problem with a website owner offering something of value (an ebook) in exchange for something else of value (an email address). Disallowing that voluntary transactions oversteps the bounds of what I view a free state to be. Would adding a second checkbox ("I'm not a resident of the EU") be a way for a site owner to still provide this to exchange to non-EU residents…
The exchange email -> ebook in itself isn't problematic with regards to the GDPR, phrasing it not as an exchange but a free gift is. edit: You may of course not like my comment, but it is factually correct: GDPR really doesn't forbid combining the newsletter entry with a bait like a free ebook, as long as you don't phrase the newsletter membership as "free" and use double opt-in.
I didn't downvote you but I do like that your edit provides more info!
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#58I gave a quick glance through this and it seems pretty good especially for beginners. I noticed at the beginning it goes straight into installing the vue cli with yarn or npm. Might be helpful for beginners to know what npm/yarn (and for that matter node) is and at the very least how to install it. I understand that this is supposed to go with a complimentary course which might explain these things, but might be good…
Thank you for the feedback!
I considered beginners to the framework, rather than to frontend development altogether - I think an npm/yarn intro would have helped, it's difficult to know where to stop and avoid going into a rabbit hole to explain all the things you're "supposed" to know when entering the JS frontend dev realm.
Good points!
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#59Shameless plug: Few years back I was into SPAs and I started writing a tutorial for Vue.js
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#60This is a lot of work and value you are adding to the world for free, thanks for putting it out there.
An email address is a small thing to ask for when what you are providing is much more than 5-10 hours of work. I guess it's a fair trade for me right now because I'm exploring Vue.js and it looks to be much more mature than 1-2 years ago.