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Mumbai bans plastic bags, bottles, and single-use plastic containers

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Re: Mumbai bans plastic bags, bottles, and single-use plastic containers

#101

Great to see that my city, Mumbai, is setting an example here. Plastic ban is a no brainer. People must move to either biodegradable carry bags and packaging or move to jute/steel/metal bags/utensils etc. Plastic would choke our world one day otherwise. At the same time, I know it would be huge pain for a lot of people. In Mumbai, it rains really heavy. Like really really heavy. It rains more than 2x it rains in Lond…

Delhi has been banning plastic for a long time but it keeps coming back.

Re: Mumbai bans plastic bags, bottles, and single-use plastic containers

#102

Great. Let's roll this out everywhere. Actually it would be nice to do something about cigeratte butts too.

Just ban cigarettes? They're ridiculous, I don't understand why we allow them.

Banning something does not make it go away. What is does is taking control over it out of the state‘s hand, and giving it to criminals.

Re: Mumbai bans plastic bags, bottles, and single-use plastic containers

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post #74

Great to see that my city, Mumbai, is setting an example here. Plastic ban is a no brainer. People must move to either biodegradable carry bags and packaging or move to jute/steel/metal bags/utensils etc. Plastic would choke our world one day otherwise. At the same time, I know it would be huge pain for a lot of people. In Mumbai, it rains really heavy. Like really really heavy. It rains more than 2x it rains in Lond…

Doesnt Mumbai do that every couple of years and the the whole thing fizzles out and then some new bureaucrat tries it again. This is from 2009 http://business.rediff.com/report/2009/dec/30/bmc-plans-to-b...

Exactly. I read every year in the local Goa newspaper that government bans plastic in Goa. Yet every time I arrive nothing is changed.

Re: Mumbai bans plastic bags, bottles, and single-use plastic containers

#104
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just ban cigarettes? They're ridiculous, I don't understand why we allow them.

because of tax revenues and the pressures from tobacco lobbyists.

Banning something does not make it go away. Look at alcohol, look at cannabis, …

You only cede control over it. No consumer protection anymore, no age restrictions, no quality assurance, …. On the black market nobody asks for your ID.

People like to pretend that the question is: Do we want drug X or not? That‘s distorting reality. We already have this drug in our society. The question is how to deal with it. An outright ban is almost always the wrong choice to go about it.

Re: Mumbai bans plastic bags, bottles, and single-use plastic containers

#105
Instead, government could've imposed ban on the consumer products which are wrapped using plastic material. Almost 50% plastic come directly from such consumer products sold by all FMCG companies. Such plastic material which is used as a wrapper (e.g. mineral bottles, wrappers of chocolates, biscuits, wafers, tobacco, etc.) is often useless and people tend to throw it right away.

I agree that "we", the people need to take a pledge to stop using plastic as much as we can. But if there's no restriction put on giant FMCG companies such as Hindustan Unilever, ITC, Patanjali, Netsle, Procter and Gamble, etc. from supplying their products wrapped in plastic, I consider all of these government initiatives merely as a gimmick.

EDIT 1: Another comment I left on this thread - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17400028.

EDIT 2: In India, plastic is a major contributor of blocking sewers and rivers, especially in rainy seasons. Another important problem plastic waste produces is that since government bodies (such as, municipal corporations, gram panchayats, etc.) are unable to dump and/or recycle plastic waste properly, it is accidentally consumed by animals and is the major reason for their deaths. Another issue is that, often "dumping waste" is considered as "burning" it. Burning plastic waste disturbs healthy air and is a major factor among others responsible for the increased air pollution in Indian cities recently.

Re: Mumbai bans plastic bags, bottles, and single-use plastic containers

#106
This is nothing.

I was entering my workplace yesterday and as usual, the guard at the first checkpoint rummaged through my backpack. I was shocked when he said the plastic bag I was using to protect my notebooks from rain could not be taken inside. Upon asking for an explanation, he said plastic bags are outlawed and we cannot risk them in company premises.

I had to keep that bag in my vehicle trunk and then was allowed to enter premises.

Re: Mumbai bans plastic bags, bottles, and single-use plastic containers

#107
The offset in reduced plastic use by consumers will be more than compensated with the rapidly growing e-commerce market.

I am terrified of the amount of plastic my Amazon purchases bring with their packing.

It is a step in the right direction, but the govt. should invest and provide alternatives, perhaps use existing research institutions to come up with new, eco-friendly packing materials, and popularize them.

Re: Mumbai bans plastic bags, bottles, and single-use plastic containers

#108

This is nothing. I was entering my workplace yesterday and as usual, the guard at the first checkpoint rummaged through my backpack. I was shocked when he said the plastic bag I was using to protect my notebooks from rain could not be taken inside. Upon asking for an explanation, he said plastic bags are outlawed and we cannot risk them in company premises. I had to keep that bag in my vehicle trunk and then was allo…

This sounds like a bizarre misunderstanding.

Re: Mumbai bans plastic bags, bottles, and single-use plastic containers

#109

This is nothing. I was entering my workplace yesterday and as usual, the guard at the first checkpoint rummaged through my backpack. I was shocked when he said the plastic bag I was using to protect my notebooks from rain could not be taken inside. Upon asking for an explanation, he said plastic bags are outlawed and we cannot risk them in company premises. I had to keep that bag in my vehicle trunk and then was allo…

This sounds like a bizarre misunderstanding.

Please elaborate.

Re: Mumbai bans plastic bags, bottles, and single-use plastic containers

#110

When will US cities do the same? Most restaurants offer plastic togo containers, which ends up in the landfill. Some restaurants even use plastic bowls and plates for dine-in customers, arguably so they don’t have to invest in equipment and labor to wash dishes. With The China recycling ban, this becomes more of a pressing issue. I’m surprised cities aren’t outright banning or imposing a tax on the use of plastics at…

It needs to become fashionable to basically carry lots of reusable stuff with you. We “sort of” have this for coffee containers and shopping bags but it would be good if people could also always carry a metal fork, plate, cup, and even a reusable napkin at all times. It’s one of those things that would remain weird if only a few people did it but wouldn’t be weird if most people did. It would also require eating esta…

That’s not very convenient. I like another suggestion in this thread: standardised components. Have shops hand out reusable metal cutlery rather than disposable plastic cutlery with a deposit scheme. You pay a few quid for the cutlery, but can return it anywhere and get your money back. The key is to make it ubiquitous, which makes it effortless for people.

You could still offer plastic disposable cutlery for those that needed it for some reason - but have a (small) charge. That should be sufficient to massively cut down the plastic waste. The UK introduced a 5p plastic bag charge which was really effective despite it being so cheap.

I realised I’m writing this as I’m eating a take-out lunch with a plastic fork. I have to trash it, but could very easily have used a returnable fork. It came in a paper bag which I can take back to the office and recycle.

Edit: Thinking about it, if having your own cutlery is a habit then it might not be so inconvenient.

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