Live data from Hacker News

Mumbai bans plastic bags, bottles, and single-use plastic containers

theguardian.com

81–90 of 362 posts

Re: Mumbai bans plastic bags, bottles, and single-use plastic containers

#82
post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn’t paper bags literally mean demand for more papers and consequently more jungle would be destroyed?

Not really, new paper is mostly produced from recycled paper. What destroys the jungle is deforestation to create farmlands.

I didn't down vote you. Just want to point out that deforestation to create farmlands also includes tree plantations. Tree farms, as it were.

I live in Tasmania, which is notorious for chopping down old-growth forest, wood chip it mostly for paper products, and replace it with plantation timber.

Re: Mumbai bans plastic bags, bottles, and single-use plastic containers

#83

I have been thinking a lot about the plastic problem. Isn't plastic a great way to store carbon in solid form for a long time and prevent it coming back into the atmosphere? I mean, doesn't plastic work the same way the wooden furniture works? Storing carbon away and preventing global warming? If this is the case, perhaps we should look into ways to store plastic in more environment friendly ways instead to trying to…

As far as I know, the carbon in plastic mostly comes from crude oil, which is already "stored away" deep in the earth. If you found a 100% effective and safe way to store all plastic after it's use you'd simply be carbon neutral (minus production costs), you wouldn't be capturing carbon from the atmosphere.

Re: Mumbai bans plastic bags, bottles, and single-use plastic containers

#86

Great. Let's roll this out everywhere. Actually it would be nice to do something about cigeratte butts too.

Just ban cigarettes? They're ridiculous, I don't understand why we allow them.

because of tax revenues and the pressures from tobacco lobbyists.

Re: Mumbai bans plastic bags, bottles, and single-use plastic containers

#88
post #34

Officially, :) In reality we all know how this will go. If anything plastic use may now increase. Because it will now go unregulated. Bans in India need to be taken with a pinch of salt. They banned tinted glasses on cars. In Bangalore, some people prefer to pay fine/bribe than remove the sticker.

I wrote above. Kannur district in Kerala, India has banned plastic carry bags. Now, shops in the main town area do not give away plastic bags. And most textile shops have started packing in Paper bags or cloth bags.

I have been there its effective, specially when people complaint when shops use plastic bags. But out of the town area, its different. You will still find small shops giving plastic bags.

https://www.thebetterindia.com/97890/first-plastic-free-dist...

Re: Mumbai bans plastic bags, bottles, and single-use plastic containers

#89

Meanwhile in Texas, the supreme court has just ruled that city-wide bag bans are illegal: http://www.txcourts.gov/media/1441865/160748.pdf

From what I've understood from the last two pages, it seems that under the law, cities lack enough legal authority to perform these types of bans.

> The Act’s exemption does not save the Ordinance because the City has not identified a law authorizing the manner in which the City seeks to regulate. The general grants of regulatory authority the City relies on do not authorize the manner the City has chosen and, more to the point, do not supersede the express directive in the Act.

Re: Mumbai bans plastic bags, bottles, and single-use plastic containers

#90
post #74

Great to see that my city, Mumbai, is setting an example here. Plastic ban is a no brainer. People must move to either biodegradable carry bags and packaging or move to jute/steel/metal bags/utensils etc. Plastic would choke our world one day otherwise. At the same time, I know it would be huge pain for a lot of people. In Mumbai, it rains really heavy. Like really really heavy. It rains more than 2x it rains in Lond…

Doesnt Mumbai do that every couple of years and the the whole thing fizzles out and then some new bureaucrat tries it again. This is from 2009 http://business.rediff.com/report/2009/dec/30/bmc-plans-to-b...

In Mumbai (and India), law enforcement is a huge challenge regardless of the laws.
Post reply on HN