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Re: Show HN: The Vue.js Handbook – Free 120 pages ebook

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Post by zerr »

noir_lord wrote: post #9
zerr wrote: post #8

In js/front-end world, what would be the closest to those RAD/component based toolkits like Qt, wxWidgets, Delphi/VCL, WinForms? Is Vue a good candidate or maybe Angular is a better choice?

Vue has single file components so you can build your own components which I do. If you want a more guided/RAD approach maybe emberjs is more what you want to be looking at.

Do Vue or emberjs come with a lots of pre-made set of components? I've heard good things about emberjs, but I've got an impression it's a pure js stuff, so doesn't play well with TypeScript, is this true?

Re: Show HN: The Vue.js Handbook – Free 120 pages ebook

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Post by hardwaresofton »

noir_lord wrote: post #9
zerr wrote: post #8

In js/front-end world, what would be the closest to those RAD/component based toolkits like Qt, wxWidgets, Delphi/VCL, WinForms? Is Vue a good candidate or maybe Angular is a better choice?

Vue has single file components so you can build your own components which I do. If you want a more guided/RAD approach maybe emberjs is more what you want to be looking at.

EmberJS strives to be a box with every tool you'll ever need -- it's what you should be comparing to Angular, if anything.

EmberJS's equivalent to Vue would be Glimmer[0], which theoretically can be used outside of Ember but might be hard, I've never tried it.

[0]: https://glimmerjs.com/

Re: Show HN: The Vue.js Handbook – Free 120 pages ebook

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Post by hardwaresofton »

zerr wrote: post #11
noir_lord wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Vue has single file components so you can build your own components which I do. If you want a more guided/RAD approach maybe emberjs is more what you want to be looking at.

Do Vue or emberjs come with a lots of pre-made set of components? I've heard good things about emberjs, but I've got an impression it's a pure js stuff, so doesn't play well with TypeScript, is this true?

No, you'll need to look into "component libraries" to find those. For example for Vue:

https://alligator.io/vuejs/roundup-desktop-components/

Re: Show HN: The Vue.js Handbook – Free 120 pages ebook

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Post by Double_a_92 »

flaviocopes wrote: post #6
hackyman wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems like your link no longer works

The email "wall" is there because I want to keep in touch with my audience and possibly get back with more learning resources. But if anyone is interested in a direct link and skip that, here it is :) https://www.dropbox.com/s/ai7j5ei0f24aoz6/The%20Vue.js%20Han... .

Thanks :) It's probably also better for you, since you avoid people that would use bogus email adresses.

Re: Show HN: The Vue.js Handbook – Free 120 pages ebook

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Post by ksahin »

flaviocopes wrote: post #7
cyberferret wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I appreciate your attempt to provide a community service, to be fair to the author, he is giving away intellectual property in order to gain an audience for his future course. Surely giving out an email is a small price to pay for the exchange if you are genuinely interested in Vue.js? EDIT: I see the author himself chimed in on this thread with a direct download link. Kudos to him/her for doing so.

Thank you for jumping in. I was thinking about how to "react" to this :) HN is probably not the target audience for my email list, which is more beginner-oriented, and a low percentage of HN users will leave their email there. It's best to make the material available free of any kind of wall and let people jump in the mailing list if they enjoy it and want more. EDIT: here's the ebook link https://www.dropbox.com/s/a…

I think it's fair to "trade" an email for a good learning resource. I mean, I'm not ok with the "3 pages ebook marketing BS leadmagnet " but it's not the case here.

Re: Show HN: The Vue.js Handbook – Free 120 pages ebook

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Post by nostalgeek »

zerr wrote: post #8

In js/front-end world, what would be the closest to those RAD/component based toolkits like Qt, wxWidgets, Delphi/VCL, WinForms? Is Vue a good candidate or maybe Angular is a better choice?

> In js/front-end world, what would be the closest to those RAD/component based toolkits like Qt, wxWidgets, Delphi/VCL, WinForms? Is Vue a good candidate or maybe Angular is a better choice?

Telerik, Sencha and a few other companies sell RAD solutions or components for frameworks like Angular and co. There are also plenty of free JS toolkits

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_widget_toolkits#Based_...

Angular and co, they don't come with components like Delphi or Winforms, although they might have some official libraries(Material design,Bootstrap...) or widget collections that are separated from the frameworks.

But most of them will only deal with UI/data binding and it will be up to you to build components on top of that.

IMHO if your goal is to build desktop like apps and LOB on the web, don't bother with Angular,Vuejs,React and co, this is not the right abstraction. If you are looking for complex data grids widgets, have a look at the link I provided.

This is the exact same reasoning for charts. If you are looking for charts to use in your apps, don't use D3.js, use a library that actually comes with charts.

Re: Show HN: The Vue.js Handbook – Free 120 pages ebook

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Post by sixhobbits »

flaviocopes wrote: post #7
cyberferret wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I appreciate your attempt to provide a community service, to be fair to the author, he is giving away intellectual property in order to gain an audience for his future course. Surely giving out an email is a small price to pay for the exchange if you are genuinely interested in Vue.js? EDIT: I see the author himself chimed in on this thread with a direct download link. Kudos to him/her for doing so.

Thank you for jumping in. I was thinking about how to "react" to this :) HN is probably not the target audience for my email list, which is more beginner-oriented, and a low percentage of HN users will leave their email there. It's best to make the material available free of any kind of wall and let people jump in the mailing list if they enjoy it and want more. EDIT: here's the ebook link https://www.dropbox.com/s/a…

A way a lot of people deal with this is to have a compulsory email box but do very minimal validation. For beginner focused content, people who know they can put a fake email and don't want to be on your mailing list are not much of a loss. And if the content is good, they might still recommend to others who will join the mailing list.

Re: Show HN: The Vue.js Handbook – Free 120 pages ebook

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Post by jpangs88 »

I gave a quick glance through this and it seems pretty good especially for beginners. I noticed at the beginning it goes straight into installing the vue cli with yarn or npm. Might be helpful for beginners to know what npm/yarn (and for that matter node) is and at the very least how to install it.

I understand that this is supposed to go with a complimentary course which might explain these things, but might be good for reference.

That being said this seems like a great resource that I would recommend to any new people that are starting with web front end, great work!

Re: Show HN: The Vue.js Handbook – Free 120 pages ebook

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Post by jazoom »

sixhobbits wrote: post #17
flaviocopes wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you for jumping in. I was thinking about how to "react" to this :) HN is probably not the target audience for my email list, which is more beginner-oriented, and a low percentage of HN users will leave their email there. It's best to make the material available free of any kind of wall and let people jump in the mailing list if they enjoy it and want more. EDIT: here's the ebook link https://www.dropbox.com/s/a…

A way a lot of people deal with this is to have a compulsory email box but do very minimal validation. For beginner focused content, people who know they can put a fake email and don't want to be on your mailing list are not much of a loss. And if the content is good, they might still recommend to others who will join the mailing list.

It's not good for deliverability to send emails to fake accounts. I wouldn't want fake email accounts in any list I was creating.
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