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'New Zealand wants you': the problem with tech at the edge of the world

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Re: 'New Zealand wants you': the problem with tech at the edge of the world

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Of course, if you're working in New Zealand you'll have to obey U.S. laws; the NZ government will violate its own laws to seize your property at the behest of a foreign government without due process of any kind. If you don't believe me, ask Kim Dotcom.

No thank you.

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Of course, if you're working in New Zealand you'll have to obey U.S. laws; the NZ government will violate its own laws to seize your property at the behest of a foreign government without due process of any kind. If you don't believe me, ask Kim Dotcom. No thank you.

Snore. Yes, KDC was a farce. You’re just scaremongering though.

Re: 'New Zealand wants you': the problem with tech at the edge of the world

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I’m in NZ, and involved in the startup community down here.

Great people, great vibe.

There’s a long history of Innovation down here at the bottom of the planet.

The best example is David Downs book “#8 Rewired” which gives examples of great NZ Innovations such as:

Disposable hypodermic syringe Manned flight(disputed) Jet boat Nanotube Freeze dried coffee(sorry) DNA discovery Splitting the atom(Rutherford) DNA double helix(Wilkins, the DNA Ringo Starr)

Unfortunaly, outside of Xero(Cloud Accounting) there isn’t much of that awesome innovation scaling down here.

Discovery yes, scaling not so much.

Re: 'New Zealand wants you': the problem with tech at the edge of the world

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Of course, if you're working in New Zealand you'll have to obey U.S. laws; the NZ government will violate its own laws to seize your property at the behest of a foreign government without due process of any kind. If you don't believe me, ask Kim Dotcom. No thank you.

Grow up. If you think the US can't strong-arm other countries in its sphere of influence you aren't living in reality.

Re: 'New Zealand wants you': the problem with tech at the edge of the world

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post #5

Of course, if you're working in New Zealand you'll have to obey U.S. laws; the NZ government will violate its own laws to seize your property at the behest of a foreign government without due process of any kind. If you don't believe me, ask Kim Dotcom. No thank you.

Grow up. If you think the US can't strong-arm other countries in its sphere of influence you aren't living in reality.

I think the egregious aspect of this is that there's no evidence they had to strong-arm the NZ government much at all.

Re: 'New Zealand wants you': the problem with tech at the edge of the world

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They have a really odd way to attract tech talent....

I exited my startup in the uk two years ago, successfully, leaving a successful and growing technology business behind. I have several ideas which I am prepared to self-fund up to £0.5M, and want a good environment in which to start a new business. I know coders in NZ, and they’re a talented bunch, we began to hatch a plan.

In short, the NZ gov’t don’t want it. They either want more money invested up front (much, much more), a VC to be involved (not at that stage yet by a long shot), or for me to buy a new property in NZ for > $2,000,000. Apparently having built a business with £10M turnover from nothing isn’t sufficiently good enough entrepreneurship for me to pass.

I’m now looking elsewhere - which is a shame, as I love NZ for many reasons, from the people to the nature, to the family I have there. I’m trying very hard not to be bitter about the repeated rejections, as it’s not fair to tar a nation on the basis of immigration bureaucrats. I’m certainly disappointed - the idea was for a service that NZ needs, that I hit upon while travelling there after my exit for a few months.

All they will attract will be satellite startups owned by megacorporations, as this appears to be how the bars are set.

Re: 'New Zealand wants you': the problem with tech at the edge of the world

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I’m in New Zealand. My friends are really struggling to get work here. Employers here are really tough on Chinese developers. Immigration is even tougher. I think our government needs to address these issues if we want more skilled workers.

> Employees here are really tough on Chinese developers. Immigration is even tougher

Can you elaborate on this? I'm just curious.

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