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Why nobody ever wins the car at the mall

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Re: Why nobody ever wins the car at the mall

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I saw that very car at that very mall, and the screens were all surrounded by people eagerly entering their info. Don't people get enough spam calls and emails to realize why?

They just blame it on their phone company and the like. I know a few people that knowingly hand out info at conventions yet will blame everything but. Might have to do with the marketing companies waiting long enough and people quickly forgetting about them entering their info. So when the spam calls hit they just think of whatever company they know for sure has it.

Side note: it’s almost impossible to book anything in Orlando without getting spamming with timeshare calls months later. I’m amazed it’s even legal.

Re: Why nobody ever wins the car at the mall

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Another shady “competition” is the “complete this form and get a laptop”. Except it’s not just this form, it’s this form, and this form, and this form, and this form... until the user gives up.

Each of those forms goes to a sales call list. And when you give up, you’ve already completed half a dozen forms - and you’ve given all that data for free.

If somebody does ever complete all of the forms, they get told the laptop is now out of stock - but here’s a free £50 voucher for Amazon.

Re: Why nobody ever wins the car at the mall

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A couple of years ago I had some time to kill in Vegas since i don't gamble. I was approached by this timeshare dude who offered me free tickets to the Shark Reef and a $100 gift card for a fancy restaurant. I attended the meeting (free breakfast!), politely declined all offers from a range of salesmen with ever hardening sales tactics and walked out with my vouchers two hours later.

That was a good day.

Re: Why nobody ever wins the car at the mall

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Well I would be for penalizing such businesses. Isn't this just bait and switch? Such businesses should have their licenses revoked, as they damage relations for everyone else who wants to use prize incentives. These cheaty businesses also call into question the common person's ability to negotiate with fine print -- it's just too much.

In the USA, this is just how it’s done. I’m not exaggerating; this is business as usual. Penalizing this would be a catastrophe for Americans. I think the sheer volume of the tricks, lies, gimmicks and gotchas cause each one bleed into the next to the point of immersion. The shimmer of the spectacle and hope become one and the same. Because every day is just another swindle at the Big Bazaar Of Life.

Re: Why nobody ever wins the car at the mall

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The TV giveaways are also a con. You know the deal, you watch the whole show because the competition details will be given at the end. Then the questions are multiple choice and rather easy. For example, where is the final stage of the Tour de France? Option a) Peterborough, option b) Potters Bar, option c) Paris.

In this semi-fictional example if you get the answer right then you could get to win a bicycle shaped object that looks like one of the bicycles ridden by one of the top teams.

You might not be telemarketed to death in this instance but the text you send will be to one of those premium rate numbers, to cost you £3 or so.

This money then goes to pay for the show, if you get 10000 people to text in then that is real money, enough to pay for the interns and rent the camera gear.

But it was not always like this. There was a time when the answers were difficult. There was also a time when nobody knew what a search engine was because they had not been invented yet. There was also a time when knowledge might only exist in people's heads rather than only online. Questions for TV shows could be difficult and the only way to enter might have been on a postcard where you might also have to enter a 'tie breaker', e.g. 'bicycles are best because...' (complete in less than ten words).

The tie breaker might not be there to just pick a winner from those that got the question right, the show might honestly be looking for a slogan and crowdsourcing it was a good way to pick more brains than just the production crew.

Furthermore, the result or answer was something of interest to the viewers. You could learn something. General knowledge was a thing back then, not denigrated to 'trivia' or something you could get by using your favourite search engine. General knowledge had value beyond the pub quiz.

In these former times, before 'Who wants to be a millionaire', it would have been an insult to the audience to ask a noddy multiple choice question for a competition.

Answering would not have been totally beyond the realms of possibility, you might have to go to the local library, dig out Encyclopaedia Britannica and get the answer from there. Or, if you knew your subject, then it might be something you knew. So winning also meant that you did get 'respect' from your peers and 'the world at large' for being clever enough to know the answer. Winning might have been more valuable than the prize itself just for the kudos. It wasn't as if some computer just selected your name at random in some lottery of other mugs willing to gamble.

The funny thing though is how these things go full circle. The TV shows that made the competition into something patronising and lame no longer get viewers, or even interns. That intern can make more success for themselves being a Youtube influencer and doing it all themselves. Rather than make the tea and do the errands for the big fat producer they can do their own script, presentation, camera-work and sound. they can also do their own competitions. And, in their competitions they can give away some respectable loot and get some genuine feedback from their fans. They can also avoid having to fleece their fans of an SMS premium rate call, a like/subscribe/thumbs-up and comment will be needed though. Even the question can be non-Google-able, fans might know from watching the show what breed of dog their co-presenter owns, so that could be a good quiz question. There need not be any bait-and-switch and the car given away really can be an actual car that actually gets given away.

Re: Why nobody ever wins the car at the mall

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I used to know someone who worked for one of the companies behind those "We'll Fix Your Credit Score, Call Us" and "We'll Buy Your House, Call Us" signs on the side of street intersections (among other things), and I asked her to explain to me how those signs could possibly make any money.

The way she explained it was (mostly her words), way less than 1% of people are dumb enough to dial the number, but of the people who do call, 100% of them are people who are dumb enough to call.

In other words, if the signs appeared more credible, they would be much less effective, because they'd end up wasting a lot of time screening the calls of people who are unlikely to accept the terms they offer.

She also said that scaling up (and going up market) would increase their likelihood of litigation.

It seems to me like that's what's happening with these timeshare seminars. The car isn't just there to mislead people about the potential upside of the contest, the car is really there to screen the marketing process for gullible people attracted to large financed purchases.

Re: Why nobody ever wins the car at the mall

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The TV giveaways are also a con. You know the deal, you watch the whole show because the competition details will be given at the end. Then the questions are multiple choice and rather easy. For example, where is the final stage of the Tour de France? Option a) Peterborough, option b) Potters Bar, option c) Paris. In this semi-fictional example if you get the answer right then you could get to win a bicycle shaped ob…

> the text you send will be to one of those premium rate numbers

One of the curious laws in Northern Ireland requires postal entry to be an option for all submission competitions hosted here.

So QRadio station advertises its 'win free money' competition, entry by a text message costing £1.50, but also has to state that postal entry is possible. I really should write a letter.

NI law also prohibits requiring purchase of an item as a condition for entering competitions.

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