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Layoffs at Watson Health Reveal IBM’s Problem with AI

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Re: Layoffs at Watson Health Reveal IBM’s Problem with AI

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> This works well for IBM generally (the products are shit) but especially well for Watson because it's extremely easy to sell AI without getting bogged down in details. The cynic in me says that every use of the term AI in any capacity is to sell experience and not functionality. When was the last time you used a product billed as 'AI' and thought 'wow, this is a huge game changer'? Siri is cool, but it's ultimately…

> Siri is cool No. Siri is shit.

is anything in the category of siri-like things not shit?

Re: Layoffs at Watson Health Reveal IBM’s Problem with AI

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And behind the scenes it was probably the equivalent of flipping a coin between red and white.

It was totally rule-based. More complex systems had a little more probabilistic stuff via Bayes and "certainty factors", but not this one. I worked on another one for this company called Vibration Advisor which diagnosed odd noises in GM cars.

Diagnosing vibrations is all the rage right now, it's just rebranded under "predictive maintenance". The Industrial Internet of Things crowd is all hyped up about it.

Re: Layoffs at Watson Health Reveal IBM’s Problem with AI

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I've never interacted directly with IBM, but I remember about 2 years ago, they had a talk at the Akamai Edge conference about how they dealt with bloated cookies. The company I work for has the same problem so I sat in to see what their solution was. The problem they were having is that all the various IBM lines of business added so much garbage onto the client's cookie, that eventually their pages would stop loadin…

I laughed too hard at this. Reminds me of that famous Jim Reekes story:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5d151lqJsA#t=2m4s

Do you happen to remember what the copy was on that page?

I'm sure it had to be something better than "Hey we made your cookie too big. Can we delete it? Ok thanks sorry about that."

I bet they went with something subtle and vague, make the problem a little unclear and complicated-sounding, maybe take a little credit for Websphere doing a good job in detecting the problem.

Like how I word all my work emails.

Re: Layoffs at Watson Health Reveal IBM’s Problem with AI

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I’m not too surprised, they come by our shop around once a year wanting to sell Watson analytics, and because ML is a buss word in the political layer (our upper leadership) we politely listen.

It’s not really great. They can automate the process of finding reports, but the truth is, we have people already doing that and all the reports they’ve been able to find in their POCs were either useless or some we already had.

I’m sure ML has potential, but our analytics department is run by economists and political scientists who can really utilize ML and I’m not sure they could be retrained, even if they wanted to, which they don’t.

We can’t really hire ML personal either. The only people who do it well enough are PHDs, and they have much better offers, and we’re at least 5 years away from having a candidate pool of people with the right education mix (Data + political science) and probably 10 years away from figuring out how to utilize them as well as finding enough funds for a position.

So ML is mostly left to independent companies that corporate/consult with muniplicitaties in projected owned and run by the municipalities). IBM simply doesn’t do this, and the consultant companies that doesn’t suck all work with something else.

Of course this is the perspective from the Danish public sector, it might be different else where, but I have friends who work similar positions as mine in banking, and they’re telling me the same thing.

Re: Layoffs at Watson Health Reveal IBM’s Problem with AI

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had to deal with ibm once. we were developing an application for a customer and ibm was working on some new service for them. of course the customer insisted we use the new ibm service, even though it solved a problem we didn't have at all. the ibm product was a website to be used by end users, while our application had to pass our end users data through. so, i asked the ibm guys (via the customer) to give me the doc…

And that's why IBM still makes billions of dollars, because we have fools like your client.

Here's how large the remaining inertia of IBM is: they're operating at a level where they can still generate $9-$10 billion per year in net income. That's about 2.5 times more than the most profitable tech company in all of Europe (SAP).

Re: Layoffs at Watson Health Reveal IBM’s Problem with AI

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I’m not too surprised, they come by our shop around once a year wanting to sell Watson analytics, and because ML is a buss word in the political layer (our upper leadership) we politely listen. It’s not really great. They can automate the process of finding reports, but the truth is, we have people already doing that and all the reports they’ve been able to find in their POCs were either useless or some we already ha…

>The only people who do it well enough are PHDs

This is really untrue. Maybe that's part of your hiring issue.

Re: Layoffs at Watson Health Reveal IBM’s Problem with AI

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How did your company solve it?

At the large company I worked at, it was solved by frequent code audits to any team given subdomain of the company's company.com domain. We were explicitly told to ensure that anything not related to interoperability between company properties was to be set on the ourdomain.company.com subdomain. The team in charge of it had heuristics they used to monitor for unapproved infringements on that policy. If I decided I w…

To be fair, it seems like your organization's solution was to make it very difficult to do so, which is kind of a non-solution (aside from trnctng chars, which is a practice even a small ad tech startup that I was at did).

Admittedly it is a better practice than continuing to stuff you cookie and direct users to a strange page once in a while.

Re: Layoffs at Watson Health Reveal IBM’s Problem with AI

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post #123

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How did your company solve it?

Seems fairly "conceptually straightforward" (if not so easy): compress data (internal dependencies), use predictions (external dependencies), save states server-side, simply reduce garbage.

Right on the money. We compress the cookie and store the state server side.
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