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This is an interesting comment - where would you draw the line between AI and applied statistics? A lot of AI which happens to be ML (not saying there is non-ML AI, just that a significant chunk of AI being practiced today is ML) also happens to be applied statistics. Or have statistical interpretations. Also, because something has been around for decades does not make it not AI. For ex the cheque OCR mentioned proba…
The line is clear: everything today branded "AI" is just applied statistics. AI is a buzzword. I don't know what the definition of intelligence is, but I have a feeling it doesn't rest anywhere near concepts like function approximation, and that's all even the most sophisticated "AIs" at Google or Facebook or Apple boil down to.
Layoffs at Watson Health Reveal IBM’s Problem with AI
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Re: Layoffs at Watson Health Reveal IBM’s Problem with AI
#172The health care landscape is strewn with the wreckage of software companies who thought the latest shiny software doodad could cause a "disruption" like it had in so many other industries. People who know that healthcare is different try to warn them. They don't listen. Instead they charge in with people who have no experience in the field. From the article: After the acquisition, IBM management started the process k…
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> amazing information retrieval system Which I imagine still has lots of value on it's own for large, complicated data sets.
Yep. But if your marketing and product management are all focused on selling AI instead of IR, then they're not really working toward finding a way to deliver the IR value they have to the people who need it. I'd actually like to give Watson a spin for an IR problem I'm looking at, but, thanks to their hype machine being set to overdrive, they've got the thing priced in the "The Bold Leaders of the Future Creating a…
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had to deal with ibm once. we were developing an application for a customer and ibm was working on some new service for them. of course the customer insisted we use the new ibm service, even though it solved a problem we didn't have at all. the ibm product was a website to be used by end users, while our application had to pass our end users data through. so, i asked the ibm guys (via the customer) to give me the doc…
Ah such classic outsourced third-world contractor output. They are told what to do (by some PM who has no idea) and they do it. If they ever say "uh this doesn't make sense" they are cheaply replaced. I've seen some of this nonsense (though not IBM related): strncpy(dst, src, strlen(src)); dst[strlen(dst)] = '\0';
That line alone is cancerous.
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> yes, their json interface was the DOM, serialized as json. This is pure thedailywtf material.
Did the change request come complete with specific requirements on what the interface should include? Because it sounds like they produced exactly what was asked for: a JSON interface. If the requirements were poorly specified, you can’t lay all the blame on them.
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#176I've never interacted directly with IBM, but I remember about 2 years ago, they had a talk at the Akamai Edge conference about how they dealt with bloated cookies. The company I work for has the same problem so I sat in to see what their solution was. The problem they were having is that all the various IBM lines of business added so much garbage onto the client's cookie, that eventually their pages would stop loadin…
had to deal with ibm once. we were developing an application for a customer and ibm was working on some new service for them. of course the customer insisted we use the new ibm service, even though it solved a problem we didn't have at all. the ibm product was a website to be used by end users, while our application had to pass our end users data through. so, i asked the ibm guys (via the customer) to give me the doc…
IBM sold a big outsourcing package to a major European insurance company: they would move ALL their stuff to the IBM Cloud (VMWare with a lot of custom BPM workflows to handle provisioning, etc.). None of this matched their other three big cloud projects, Bluemix, Softlayer, or their OpenStack project (Zenith -- my prior project), so it was all new from the ground up.
They needed to handle mass imports of DNS data from this insurance company (~1 million hosts) and other customers and they brought me in as a senior developer to do the grunt work. Since we were using ISC bind, I assumed we could use features like exporting zones with signed requests and take advantage of all the infrastructure work put into that server to scale up. Our Senior Architect poo-pooed that plan, so I started modeling the DNS records as structured data for consistent and complete import and export. Our senior architect also nixed that idea and said that we're gonna load the DNS structures with REST requests: the support people were gonna have a custom web application to load simple DNS export files (not zonefiles, mind you) into this system, and to make ad-hoc additions and changes. (When we had a new developer join, he had the same questions I had about why we weren't using all the DNS bind features since they were done and tested and perfect for our needs . . . it took a month to get him to stop asking.)
I got about 90% of the way through a solution with a Python Flask REST server at the center, high code coverage through unit tests (because it's Python and I was still finding edge cases that needed fixing to the very end), and Rabbit MQ for enqueuing the changes we've received before writing them out to DNS zone files. It works, but we certainly didn't need to blow April to August building out the architect's vision.
The reward I got was being pulled off the project when it was nearly code complete and would shortly go into production. I got a team based in India to manage in the mornings, while my afternoons and evenings were returned to developing Javascript for the BPM infrastructure jobs.
(When told I was going to leave for another company, IBM's counter-offer was to move me from my remote work-at-home location in Ohio, near family, to the Cloud Managed Services office in Rochester, MN, and then consider a raise.)
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#177Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is an interesting comment - where would you draw the line between AI and applied statistics? A lot of AI which happens to be ML (not saying there is non-ML AI, just that a significant chunk of AI being practiced today is ML) also happens to be applied statistics. Or have statistical interpretations. Also, because something has been around for decades does not make it not AI. For ex the cheque OCR mentioned proba…
The line is clear: everything today branded "AI" is just applied statistics. AI is a buzzword. I don't know what the definition of intelligence is, but I have a feeling it doesn't rest anywhere near concepts like function approximation, and that's all even the most sophisticated "AIs" at Google or Facebook or Apple boil down to.
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IMO, this is a bigger issue in the industry. People are hyping up ML/AI to the point where the actual application is either impossible or extremely difficult. Just look at how many people are so fearful of AI/ML taking away jobs and replacing humans. Anyone in the field knows that AI/ML can take away jobs but it is more of the low-end jobs and everything happens gradually rather than immediately. AI/ML is being more…
IMO AI/ML scientists are drastically underestimating the complexity of biology. Once scientists in biology and healthcare get on board like they are in linguistics and computer vision I'd expect things to pick up.
Re: Layoffs at Watson Health Reveal IBM’s Problem with AI
#180PSA for anyone with a disease that man and corporate picked a name for - you are feeding yourself towards that disease. Fix your diet (and 100% rid yourself of animal products, processed sugar, wheat, and any "food" that comes in a package with a label on it - hell stay away from anything that isn't a fruit or a vegetable), go on a dry / water fast, and heal yourself. Stop relying on doctors, AI, whatever the hell they produce supposedly for you.