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Darpa Literally Reinvented the Wheel for Army Combat Vehicles

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Re: Darpa Literally Reinvented the Wheel for Army Combat Vehicles

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But there are millions of young males in the US alone who are more careful than millions of young females. The effects of testosterone are far from as simple as you suggest. It tends to lead to higher competitiveness. This is not quite the same as recklessness. Meanwhile during normal usage the driver (of whatever gender) is likely to be getting shot at. This will tend to have a larger affect than their gender.

> Meanwhile during normal usage the driver (of whatever gender) is likely to be getting shot at. This will tend to have a larger affect than their gender. No -- being shot at is 0-2% of your time deployed. The rest is waiting around.

Being shot is the most important time. This is when the wheel is going to be put under the most stress...

Re: Darpa Literally Reinvented the Wheel for Army Combat Vehicles

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You could of course just carry a regular spare wheel or two. If your fancy trackwheel fails, unbolt it, and fit the regular spare wheel. You're still mobile, just without the ability to switch to track mode.

Never mind those folks with the rifles pointed at us! They’d never shoot someone whose busy changing a wheel!

All probabilities - chance if failure vs chance of getting stuck, would be interesting

Re: Darpa Literally Reinvented the Wheel for Army Combat Vehicles

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As a military officer, I pray these never make it past Test and Evaluation. They took essentially one part and turned it into 1000 parts. Anyone who has seen what 20 year old Marines do with these machines, let alone what happens in war, will appreciate that this is a fantastically horrible idea in a war zone. I need high reliability, not high zoot. Let NASA have high zoot.

NASA doesn't want high zoot. (Love the word.) It doesn't fly if it hasn't flown before.

Re: Darpa Literally Reinvented the Wheel for Army Combat Vehicles

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I didn't say anything about the design of it, which is by the way, very cool. I don't understand the point of the triangle. The same mechanism could be used to change the geometry of the wheel only at the bottom.

Changing it only at the bottom adds complexity: Which side is at the bottom right now? How can we know this; how can we know this in a way that will survive the tough conditions we expect this to be driven in? And then we need to have three separate actuator paths to transform just one part of the wheel. We would also need to deal with the fact that just flattening one side of the wheel would make for a shorter perim…

The triangle solution absolutely does need to keep track of which side is at the bottom, or you'll end up with all the weight on one vertice.

Agree with the perimeter consideration.

Re: Darpa Literally Reinvented the Wheel for Army Combat Vehicles

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As a military officer, I pray these never make it past Test and Evaluation. They took essentially one part and turned it into 1000 parts. Anyone who has seen what 20 year old Marines do with these machines, let alone what happens in war, will appreciate that this is a fantastically horrible idea in a war zone. I need high reliability, not high zoot. Let NASA have high zoot.

Yay more PMCS!!!

> PMCS

Yep, haven't heard that acronym since I ETS'd ~6 years ago.

Re: Darpa Literally Reinvented the Wheel for Army Combat Vehicles

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https://crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api/Public/ViewPublication/... "Motor vehicle crash fatalities were higher for males than females in all age groups, while the male population is equal to or less than the female population in all age groups." Particularly in the 21-30 age group, males had 3x the fatalities of females.

That has little bearing on the cost of fielding/maintaining a vehicle. Fatalities are so rare they won't have an impact maintenance costs unless a sizeable chunk of your fleet is getting driven off a cliff. In my experience men and women tend to be about equally hard on things. The male outliers tend to create more maintenance work by being hard on chassis/suspension ("hold my beer and watch this"). The female outlie…

I looked for statistics on maintenance cost of equipment for male vs female operators but didn't find any, just the un-documented assertions in https://www.equipmentworld.com/men-vs-women-who-are-the-bett... that basically say women are easier on equipment and specifically

  Attention to detail
  “I’ve always been impressed by how women take care of 
  their machines” Smith says. “They keep them clean and 
  don’t leave trash in the cabs. If there was a drop of 
  oil coming out of a wheel or something small like that 
  they let you know about it.”
I'd be happy to look at any statistics you can provide that show "equally hard on things".

Re: Darpa Literally Reinvented the Wheel for Army Combat Vehicles

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Nothing against 20-year-olds, I was one. I know what I did and what my friends did. I'm no angel. But if was running the engineering team on this, I'd make sure everyone had in their mind "the driver is maximally amped-up, young, and male.

What does them being male have to do with anything? Are you implying that being male means that they must be reckless? Or that if they were female they would automatically be careful and gentle? Careful throwing around those negative stereotypes. EDIT: The driver is likely to be getting shot at. This is going to be an order of magnitude more important than slight gender differences.

Note: the driver is unlikely to get shot at. Combat is actually rare.

Re: Darpa Literally Reinvented the Wheel for Army Combat Vehicles

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But there are millions of young males in the US alone who are more careful than millions of young females. The effects of testosterone are far from as simple as you suggest. It tends to lead to higher competitiveness. This is not quite the same as recklessness. Meanwhile during normal usage the driver (of whatever gender) is likely to be getting shot at. This will tend to have a larger affect than their gender.

> there are millions of young males in the US alone who are more careful than millions of young females Yes, and millions of young men in the US who are shorter than millions of young women. What’s your point? Young men are still disproportionately more likely to be in road traffic accidents. Re testosterone, the keywords you should be searching for are “risk taking behaviour”. I’m curious also what percentage of tim…

> Young men are still disproportionately more likely to be in road traffic accidents.

And in the military, given how e.g. the draft has never applied to women. Times are changing, but very, very slowly, and there will always be a gender disparity due to physical differences (e.g. strength, see also: almost every sport)

Re: Darpa Literally Reinvented the Wheel for Army Combat Vehicles

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As a guy who rode a motorcycle from Central Europe through Central Asia to Mongolia, the last part largely off-road, I wholeheartedly agree. Simplicity is key. As a traveler, if your "wheel 4.0" has a software bug or breaks down in the middle of the desert, it is inconvenient enough. I can only imagine the consequences this would have in a war scenario.

It's also pretty annoying if your are stuck in the middle of the desert because you opted not to use wheel 4.0. In the end it's all about statistics. What is more likely to happen? A wheel 4.0 fail, or getting stuck with wheel 1.0 (where 4.0 would have helped)... The first likelyness is constantly decreasing with wheel 4.1, 4.2, 4.9 etc whereas the first one stays constant. At least at some point in time wheel 4.0 sh…

I somehow doubt that this system would perform so much better than e.g. removing air from a tyre or putting one of those metal boards under it that it would justify the increased complexity (and cost) over normal tires. I mean okay, you don't have to get out anymore, great. For deflating tires that isn't the case either anymore.

Re: Darpa Literally Reinvented the Wheel for Army Combat Vehicles

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20 year olds vary. As a 20 year old in the military, I was elbows deep in the B-61 Mod 10 replacing radioisotopic thermoelectric generators. Concession: id be damned if I told you that we didn’t goose the new guy bending over the explosives from time to time.

I Googled for "B-61 Mod 10 replacing radioisotopic thermoelectric generators" and I got this → https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B61_nuclear_bomb and upon further searching, this → https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermoelectric_generator I need to ask if thermoelectric generator was a part of the B61 nuclear bomb? Please explain.

"Manufacturer Pantex Plant"

Hey, those are from Amarillo!

When I was about 20, I was out driving around and decided to see how fast my Oldsmobile could go, on a long, straight county road. Got up to about 110 and decided to slow down when I popped over a low hill and saw the road making a 90° right turn in front of a tall chain link fence with razor-wire on the top. I made the turn, but I assume emergency medical assistance would have arrived quickly---the fence was Pantex.

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