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Two Vortex Rings Colliding in Slow Motion [video]

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Herein lies a lot of the difficulty in doing experimental fluid mechanics. My own PhD ended up conprising a few minutes worth of data after years testing and retesting.

That said, I wonder if such an experiment would be better with PIV or even Schlieren as there would be no need to refill the tank each time.

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I used to notice something similar in college.

cough We were smoking a lot of... various things. I had setup a chill room that didn't have any air conditioning (so it was actually very hot; a hot box if you will). Just a small room where smoke would accumulate.

At any rate, I got very good at blowing smoke rings. In the still room, you could blow a smoke ring and it would expand for about a minute before dissipating. The more substantial rings would do something really crazy. They'd spawn a new, smaller ring, but going the opposite direction. I believe this was only the case if the ring was blown upward.

I don't know if this is related to the Two Vortex Ring Collision experiment, but it was definitely fun to watch!

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The reason for the secondary rings, and the explanation for their outward travel, is a straightforward application of potential flow, namely that lines of vorticity induce rotational motion that falls off at 1/r. As the rings approach each other, they induce outward motion, and any instability or imperfections in the rings cause closer points between the two rings to induce more motion. With a bit of mental squinting, you can see how the primary rings would pinch off to form the secondaries. A similar thing can happen to passenger jet contrails, causing paired contrails to form a string of rings. Conspiracy enthusiasts point to these as evidence for “Aurora” or other exotic propulsion schemes, but they’re really just a rolled out version of the phenomenon in Dustin’s tank.

This comment would have been better with a whiteboard.

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I used to notice something similar in college. cough We were smoking a lot of... various things. I had setup a chill room that didn't have any air conditioning (so it was actually very hot; a hot box if you will). Just a small room where smoke would accumulate. At any rate, I got very good at blowing smoke rings. In the still room, you could blow a smoke ring and it would expand for about a minute before dissipating.…

Vaping and youtube has taken smoke ring blowing to new level https://youtu.be/zVXR7xttUeo

Re: Two Vortex Rings Colliding in Slow Motion [video]

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The reason for the secondary rings, and the explanation for their outward travel, is a straightforward application of potential flow, namely that lines of vorticity induce rotational motion that falls off at 1/r. As the rings approach each other, they induce outward motion, and any instability or imperfections in the rings cause closer points between the two rings to induce more motion. With a bit of mental squinting…

> This comment would have been better with a whiteboard.

Actually, I think you nailed it. I'm no physicist, but you made the mechanism behind it very clear and intuitive :)

Re: Two Vortex Rings Colliding in Slow Motion [video]

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I used to notice something similar in college. cough We were smoking a lot of... various things. I had setup a chill room that didn't have any air conditioning (so it was actually very hot; a hot box if you will). Just a small room where smoke would accumulate. At any rate, I got very good at blowing smoke rings. In the still room, you could blow a smoke ring and it would expand for about a minute before dissipating.…

Vaping and youtube has taken smoke ring blowing to new level https://youtu.be/zVXR7xttUeo

I don't see any reason why this shouldn't be an Olympic sport.
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