Codec2: A Whole Podcast on a Floppy Disk

Post by krab » Sun, Jun 24, 2018, 7:10 PM UTC

ksec wrote: post #119

Let say we have Codec2 with WaveNet, its 3.2Kbps now does similar to may be 16Kbps EVS. ( EVS being the codec used in VoLTE, which is slightly better then even Opus in Speeches. ) What "value" / "uses" does this bring us? It cant be used in podcast because as shown it isn't very good with Music. And many podcast has Music in it. While Codec 2 with WaveNet can have a 2-4x reduction in bitrate. I cant think of a applic…

Post by chungy » Sun, Jun 24, 2018, 8:54 PM UTC

CharlesW wrote: post #26

iagooar wrote: post #7

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All the +2k podcasts hosted on Podigee (a podcast hosting company mainly known in German-speaking countries) are distributed in opus. But it is, and probably will always be, a rather niche distribution format. AAC had its moment, but MP3 is alive and kicking. Even Apple acknowledges its importance by adding support for chapter markers in iOS12.

> AAC had its moment… That moment is 15 years in with no signs of losing steam[1]. AAC effectively replaced MP3 for most online audio use cases, with podcasting as a notable exception[2]. And of course, AAC is the audio format for all basically all online video distribution. [1] Apple kicked off the transition in 2003 with the introduction of AAC-based digital music sales. [2] Because podcasting is a decentralized me…

Post by bewo001 » Mon, Jun 25, 2018, 10:06 AM UTC

namibj wrote: post #59

reaperducer wrote: post #34

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>Actually if you're lucky and make a phone call with HDVoice, or whatever they're calling it, the quality is excellent Can confirm. I spend a lot of time in fringe reception areas, but every now and then I get a good, strong signal and the HD Voice kicks in between my iPhone and my wife's and it sounds like she's standing right next to me. It really is something to experience, especially if the previous phone call wa…

Also why no one really appreciated ISDN over here in central Europe. Yes, there are ways to do better _now_, and it would have been trivial to support channels with better codecs by negotiating something different than u-law 8kHz PCM, but back then that resulted in rather good quality. The issue was that few people got ISDN phones, which resulted in them using analog outputs on an adapter device, which got later inco…

Post by CharlesW » Mon, Jun 25, 2018, 2:30 PM UTC

chungy wrote: post #133

CharlesW wrote: post #26

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> AAC had its moment… That moment is 15 years in with no signs of losing steam[1]. AAC effectively replaced MP3 for most online audio use cases, with podcasting as a notable exception[2]. And of course, AAC is the audio format for all basically all online video distribution. [1] Apple kicked off the transition in 2003 with the introduction of AAC-based digital music sales. [2] Because podcasting is a decentralized me…

Perceptions are probably influenced heavily by your own usage and places for consumption. I'm also in the camp of "AAC is very rare, if at all"... Considering also that YouTube uses WebM, which very explicitly is only Vorbis or Opus for audio, "basically all online video distribution" must exclude the web's most popular video distribution site...