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Amazon, the Brand Buster

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Re: Amazon, the Brand Buster

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Often I comparison shop between aliexpress.com and amazon.de. When the "brand" or equivalent quality product is on both, AliExpress is almost always cheaper, sometimes up to 50%. I would say on average 25% less and with free shipping even for small orders.

Yes, but the prices on aliexpress don't include European warranty, customs and VAT.

Sure but who needs those?

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How much do consumers pay in Bezos tax for goods on Amazon? i.e, if the site simply let consumers buy from Chinese manufacturers (which, in the end, is what much of Amazon is) without the fee to the owners of the marketplace (i.e, "Bezos Tax), how much cheaper would it be?

Identical bluetooth OBDII scanners: Aliexpress $2.98 shipped, Amazon $10.99 shipped IME this is a fairly typical price ratio. Sometimes they are much closer though. Of course Amazon ships it in 2 days instead of weeks. The "Bezos tax" is largely paying for the very convenient logistics of US warehousing. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/ELM-327-V-2-1-BT-adapter-Wor... https://www.amazon.com/Mestart-Bluetooth-Diagnosti…

Those are not identical items. Look at the photos: the one sold on Amazon is much smaller.

Re: Amazon, the Brand Buster

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Identical bluetooth OBDII scanners: Aliexpress $2.98 shipped, Amazon $10.99 shipped IME this is a fairly typical price ratio. Sometimes they are much closer though. Of course Amazon ships it in 2 days instead of weeks. The "Bezos tax" is largely paying for the very convenient logistics of US warehousing. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/ELM-327-V-2-1-BT-adapter-Wor... https://www.amazon.com/Mestart-Bluetooth-Diagnosti…

Those are not identical items. Look at the photos: the one sold on Amazon is much smaller.

Oh sorry, the Aliexpress listing includes quite a few variants and the one I was referring to apparently isn't selected by default. The one on the far left is the same as the Amazon listing.

But the point is, search for any popular product category on both sites and you will see largely the same items, with Amazon typically somewhere from 2-5x as expensive.

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It is not good for consumers. You buy from a particular seller because you know based on reviews that their item is not counterfeit and then amazon sends you the item from someone else and it is.

Receiving a counterfeit item must happen so very rarely, considering the (millions?) huge volume of these sales per day, and Amazon is obviously swift to fix the issue (much to the chagrin of sellers swept up by the zero tolerance rule) that I really doubt most consumers would ever receive a counterfeit item in this way. It seems more likely that consumers would buy the "cheaper" option from an FBA seller (perhaps un…

1 in 1000? isn't it like 4/10 for "genuine" Mac chargers?

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I think this illustrates the unfair advantage pretty well: https://www.amazon.com/s/&field-keywords=batteries

On a somewhat related note: https://www.wsj.com/articles/demand-for-batteries-is-shrinki... I was able to read it via a google search: https://www.google.com/search?q=duracell+energizer+high+pric... From the article: Shoppers are paying more for disposable batteries even though the proliferation of toys and consumer electronics powered by built-in rechargeable batteries has reduced U.S. demand. That is because the tw…

That's my intuition too. I mean, there is obviously the potential for a retailer like amazon to disrupt existing markets in an unfair way. But this market was really in need of some disruption. Are Amazon Basics batteries so successful because Amazon is leveraging its retail dominance or because the existing choices are overpriced?

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Until it's an option for buyers , I'm going to be quite reluctant to buy from Amazon.

Why? Commingled inventory means that some common, standardized items don't need a seller-specific barcode on them, and are just added to a "pool" of that identical product. It's better for consumers because you're getting the closest one of the item you ordered, faster - and at the (lower) price from the seller you selected. Aside from a couple high profile cases of sellers getting in trouble for inventory they never…

As someone who just got counterfeit tea from Amazon and Amazon refused to post the review pointing out that it's fake, it's rampant across all products and all SKUs. You can't even usually return the items if they're in certain categories like "food". You just have to suck up that you lost money on Amazon again.

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the referenced article from Yale Law Journal is very interesting - and discuss amazon in context of anti-trust laws, what is wrong with those laws and some solutions. snip snip ( https://www.yalelawjournal.org/note/amazons-antitrust-parado... ) "in some ways, the story of Amazon’s sustained and growing dominance is also the story of changes in our antitrust laws. Due to a change in legal thinking and practice in the…

This makes me want to buy some Amazon stock. :)

This attitude makes me want to prosecute shareholders :)

Re: Amazon, the Brand Buster

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the referenced article from Yale Law Journal is very interesting - and discuss amazon in context of anti-trust laws, what is wrong with those laws and some solutions. snip snip ( https://www.yalelawjournal.org/note/amazons-antitrust-parado... ) "in some ways, the story of Amazon’s sustained and growing dominance is also the story of changes in our antitrust laws. Due to a change in legal thinking and practice in the…

It is as if Bezos charted the company’s growth by first drawing a map of antitrust laws, and then devising routes to smoothly bypass them

What if that statement was correct? Bezos comes from D.E. Shaw, and it's known that the old sphinx takes the long view.

Re: Amazon, the Brand Buster

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I don't get this argument. I just went to CVS and bought their white labeled lotion and some band aids, that were nearly identical in ingredients to the branded stuff sitting right next to it on the shelf. My soap at home is similarly target's in house stuff. Half the things I buy from Costco are Kirkland. Why do I do it? Because it's like half the price. Just like buying say AmazonBasics batteries vs Energizer.

I bought some AmazonBasics AAs when I discovered they're relabeled Eneloops at a steep discount. Years on, they still work great.

Re: Amazon, the Brand Buster

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I'm a little surprised so many people still buy large numbers of alkaline batteries. NiMH rechargeables are readily available, have a fairly low cost to get started with a battery/charger bundle, save a significant amount of money over time and have vastly better performance in higher-drain devices like cameras and flashlights.
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